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I agree that a stock Yaris isn't a conventional race car but I think that for 1.5L it does put down plenty of hp. Consider you had some cars in the 1980's with ~4.0L V8's putting out somewhere between 115-130hp. So engines have come a long way. Guess it's all a matter of perspective. And also for the record, a stock Yaris will beat a stock Mazda2. And they both have 1.5s and weigh almost exactly the same. And it probably still gets better mileage whilst out getting groceries.
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Hey man, it's all good. Like I said from the get go I don't disagree with your overall point. But to say that the Yaris is "pulling on nothing" is, in many ways, a matter of how you look at it.
And the comparison to the mazda was only to illustrate that it pulls harder than other 1.5Ls. In no way did I think you were turning this into a Mazda versus Toyota thing. I happen to like both anyway. And Nissan for that matter. Also I still feel the need to defend EPyarisdriver because I'm not sure if he meant times on an autocross track or just lame ass street racing from stop lights. Because if it's at the track I feel if he is a skilled driver and others aren't so much then it's feasible he could be "keeping up" with those cars. Keeping up is also kind of relative too so who knows. Still I don't think you should knock someone for taking pride in their car. But again... I'm not really arguing with you. And frankly, if you have a mazdaspeed3, I'm more jealous than anything else.
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04-17-2011, 10:04 PM | #22 |
mazdaspeed, i too disagree with the OP's statements about who he has beaten; however, it is very obvious with your lengthy response, you were WAY too offended by it. lol. But I think my yaris would beat the cars he listed above. Definitely not the speed 3 though. ;)
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I can agree with this, maybe I did come off arrogant, but that is because I deal with ricers all day in my speed 3, and especially when I drive my speed protege. So i am in the habit of using facts to straighten things out instead of just saying no. That wasnt intentional, like i said just out of habit because of the people i have to deal with everyday. For a 1.5, the yaris isnt bad, but there is a difference between taking pride and embellishing. not looking to flame or argue, was just stating facts, as i work for toyota, and i am an avid mazda enthusiast. |
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While we're on the topic of springs, which springs are stiffest that still maintain the factory ride height or at the maximum a drop of 3/4 inch?
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very true.
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this question is also going to be a little off topic but if the rotary engine, like in the RX-8, puts out more power than a piston engine of similar displacement then why don't more manufacturer's use it instead?
also why does the RX-8 take premium unleaded? i thought one of the advantages of the rotary engine was that it typically runs just as well off a lower octane fuel than the typical engine.
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Just my opinion but i believe rotaries arent as popular because its hard to design them to pass emissions. They are more expensive to produce, and they also do not get as good gas mileage as a piston engine of the same displacement. Maintenance is also very important compared to a piston engine. most people dont realize the rotary uses oil, so it must be filled at intervals when its low between oil changes. oil consumption is what doomed the rx7 in the states, people didnt understand that, which was especially bad with the fd twinturbo setup. And rx8s require premium because their a higher compression engine 10:1 i believe. premium helps prevent early detonation. |
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wow I just left an Aston Martin DB9 behind me like it was sitting still! Oh wait, I think it was parked... :D
But seriously, I agree there's always a large dose of wishful thinking when reading posts like these... but this is what drag strips are for, right??
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Not sure what get's ruined when sport dampers are included??? I'd be more concerned what would be destroyed by reducing suspension travel without increasing damping rates to stop bottoming out.
I wouldn't waste the money on springs and installation labour without also dramatically increasing the handling performance with upgraded dampers. Nothing looks more rediculous than those slammed ricers who are bouncing down the street because they were too poor/cheap to invest in increased damping. I get naucous watching them. The passengers must be on the verge of pucking.
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