Yaris vs. Aveo: The Real Competitor

[Spades]

well, the focus and cobalt are compacts, and the kia rio,chevy aveo,honda fit,and nissan versa are all sub compacts.

A base focus and cobalt are in the 13k+ range where I live, and the aveo,rio,and my yaris are all in the sub 11k range before dealer mark ups/delivery charges, ect.

the cobalt is lucky to hit 30+ mpg, and I used to work at a ford dealership and while the focus is said to get 30+mpg highway, its more like 25...it gets horrible milage from the people I talked to. both these cars are compacts and not in the same price range and class as the aveo and yaris.

the fit and versa from what I have seen, while sub compacts, dont get the milage or the same base price as the yaris,rio,and aveo.

P.S. the engines in the base focus and cobalt are nothing special...while the ecotec in the cobalt is said to have lots of potential with tuner parts, it is also plagued with mechanical issues, one of the reasons I sold my 05 cavalier(at 10k miles the engine refused to start when cold...after about 4 minutes of cranking it would finally fire, and the dealership could not solve the problem.) and didnt buy a cobalt or a focus...those things were always in the shop.

[Yaris Revenge]

This may be just a touch off topic, but have you noticed how the fuel efficiency for economy cars seems to have actually decreased across the board over the past decade? Toyota seems to be the only brand capable of really pulling off impressive mpg with a small engine anymore. The Honda Civics still have high marks, but the Fit, which you would expect to be awesome ni that department, actually gets fewer mpg. Very strange. Makes it hard to shop, when mpg and price are your two main objectives.

~YR

[marcus]

why is aveo even in here........"oh wait just want to make sure i didnt start this forum....." no i didnt.... SO! why is this even here?????????lol..

[boris13]

Originally Posted by Yaris Revenge

This may be just a touch off topic, but have you noticed how the fuel efficiency for economy cars seems to have actually decreased across the board over the past decade? Toyota seems to be the only brand capable of really pulling off impressive mpg with a small engine anymore. The Honda Civics still have high marks, but the Fit, which you would expect to be awesome ni that department, actually gets fewer mpg. Very strange. Makes it hard to shop, when mpg and price are your two main objectives.

~YR

Well, weight is the enemy of MPG, right? It seems like the car companies are afraid to keep their cars light (think Honda CRX or Geo Metro)... they believe that Americans won't buy anything "less than substantial." So poundage is added, and MPG suffers.