Look Out Toyota, Here Comes The Good Enough Chinese Car

[TPA5]

Main problem with this? I value my life. VW may have built no-frill cars, but I actually trust a VW car to keep my butt safe. I'm not trusting the Chinese industry to actually build something that won't;

1) Randomly have parts fail or rip apart

2) Flake apart like a paper crane in a collision

I'll stick to brands I know. I'm good with being adventurous and switching up toilet paper and breakfast cereal brands every now and again, but I'm not putting my life in the hands of a country famous for shoddy goods.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by TPA5

Main problem with this? I value my life. VW may have built no-frill cars, but I actually trust a VW car to keep my butt safe. I'm not trusting the Chinese industry to actually build something that won't;

1) Randomly have parts fail or rip apart

2) Flake apart like a paper crane in a collision

I'll stick to brands I know. I'm good with being adventurous and switching up toilet paper and breakfast cereal brands every now and again, but I'm not putting my life in the hands of a country famous for shoddy goods.

"I value my life" 'I'm not trusting the Chinese industry to actually build something that won't (keep my butt safe)' ----- I agree. These were my first two thoughts while reading the article Bronsin posted.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by TPA5

Main problem with this? I value my life. VW may have built no-frill cars, but I actually trust a VW car to keep my butt safe. I'm not trusting the Chinese industry to actually build something that won't;

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The VW Beetle had to be one of the most unsafe cars ever built. Gas tank in your lap, eggshell construction, manually adjusted drum brakes all around, and directionally unstable.

I put hundreds of thousands of miles on them and loved to do all the work on them.

If you can drive a Beetle surely you can drive a Chinese concoction.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

The VW Beetle had to be one of the most unsafe cars ever built. Gas tank in your lap, eggshell construction, manually adjusted drum brakes all around, and directionally unstable.

I put hundreds of thousands of miles on them and loved to do all the work on them.

If you can drive a Beetle surely you can drive a Chinese concoction.

My dad was a rep for Chevrolet in the early 70s. In dealerships they had these big clunky machines (covered in plastic) that would play different promotional videos that customers could watch. I don't know how they changed the videos (this was before Betamax). One of the videos was a promotional video for the Vega. It showed the Vega going around a fairly sharp corner and taking the corner just fine. Then the video showed a VW Beetle taking the same corner at the same speed and the Beetle ROLLED OVER and off the road into a ditch!

Beetle.....Chinese concoction.....what about the old (can't properly type this on an English keyboard) Citroen (the 2V I think) with the basket weave seats!!!......and of course the Trebant.....those polluted Germany for a fair amount of time after reunification.

[12 yaris]

Bring on the Chinese,What is everyone afraid of???

[OTA'sTOY]

Originally Posted by 12 yaris

Bring on the Chinese,What is everyone afraid of???

!MSG!

[Deathegg]

Originally Posted by bronsin

For years now we have been at the mercy of domestic and foriegn cars making us buy cars with features we do not want. Electric windows, power mirrors, remote entry, ABS, airbags, automatic transmission the list is endless. They use mind control to make us want these things. They use mind control to make us think its OK to PAY for them too.

Well all that may be about to change. Like the VW of the 50s and 60s which made as basic reliable no frills car, China may be about to rock the automotive world:

http://bottomline.nbcnews.com/_news/...nough-car?lite

Mind control? Really? Please give me an example of how, let's say, Mazda uses mind control to make me buy one of their cars.

Also, as someone said, the safety things you mention are mandated by the government, not the automakers.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by Deathegg

Mind control? Really? Please give me an example of how, let's say, Mazda uses mind control to make me buy one of their cars.
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I didnt say they use mind control to make you buy one of their cars.

By their commercials they make the public want fancy expensive cars. Like BMWs.

A large segment of the public thinks their social status is measured by their car.

Fortunately I am unaffected by this so I can warn everybody before its too late.

Or they chop my head off.

[12 yaris]

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

I didnt say they use mind control to make you buy one of their cars.

By their commercials they make the public want fancy expensive cars. Like BMWs.

A large segment of the public thinks their social status is measured by their car.

Fortunately I am unaffected by this so I can warn everybody before its too late.

Or they chop my head off.

I agree with you. I used to live in Marin County, CA. I didn't grow up there, but more than one household on both sides of my family (but not the majority of my family) still live there. Marin County has more BMWs per capita than any of the 3,000 + counties in the United States (unless, unbeknownst to me, it has recently lost this dubious distinction). The climate there = . One of my relatives worries that she will be judged and, most importantly, her child might suffer socially if she doesn't shop at an expensive enough grocery store.. I'm NOT kidding! Some friends of ours moved to Fairfield County, CT and they say Greenwich, CT and parts of Westchester County in New York are worse. With the limited exposure I've had to Greenwich and to Rye, NY.... l'd have to say I agree.

[edmscan]

I must have had a Monday or Friday car as well ... my waterpump went as well. But really, anyone that reads this forum knows that the waterpump on the Yaris is suspect. So .. one bad part, I would consider that pretty good. But .. a Chinese car, not likely to happen for me, I just don't trust them with my life. I want the airbag to work when I get in a crash. A Chinese airbag I just cannot take that chance.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by edmscan

I must have had a Monday or Friday car as well ... my waterpump went as well. But really, anyone that reads this forum knows that the waterpump on the Yaris is suspect. So .. one bad part, I would consider that pretty good. But .. a Chinese car, not likely to happen for me, I just don't trust them with my life. I want the airbag to work when I get in a crash. A Chinese airbag I just cannot take that chance.

I know. Failed water pump = possibly #1 on the 'things that could go wrong with a Yaris' list. I just like to rib Bronsin a bit because he likes to bring it up .

[OTA'sTOY]

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...D047519C0F42C8

wow rear doors open but windows popout not roll down not for me would have made more sense if it was a 2dr hatch instead of 4dr

[12 yaris]

Too bad we'll never see any here,I might be tempted to trade...
Personlized plate? MSG...

[junorico24]

They are already sold in Australia.Presently there is two Chines brands in Australia. Great Wall Motors and Chery. Great Wall Motors produce SUV's and pick ups and they are selling like hot cakes. They are cheaper but not by much.You would be surprise to know they are only a few grand cheaper than other makes.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by junorico24

They are already sold in Australia.Presently there is two Chines brands in Australia. Great Wall Motors and Chery. Great Wall Motors produce SUV's and pick ups and they are selling like hot cakes. They are cheaper but not by much.You would be surprise to know they are only a few grand cheaper than other makes.

How do Australians (government officials and consumers) feel about vehicle safety? Less of a priority than for Americans and for Germans?

[junorico24]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

How do Australians (government officials and consumers) feel about vehicle safety? Less of a priority than for Americans and for Germans?

They comply with safety.The biggest problem is drink driving like an idiot and speeding not the cars fault per say.If you can get past the mental paranoia about Chinese vehicles being unsafe.Then you will have a normal safe vehicle to drive around in.


Peace..Go scoop yourself a Great Wall.

http://www.greatwallmotors.com.au/de...ticle&ID=21794

There is 25 559 Great Wall Motors on Australian Roads and growing baby. So they are not as bad as you think. However it is by no means cheap buddy.$ 28 990 for a suv DIESEL. Which is not bad. The Panda is less than 10K. You get what you pay for..BTW you can purchased a pick up truck loaded with features power package, air con, air bag, abs and power windows etc for the same price as a midget YARIS. End of STORY.

[tooter]

Originally Posted by junorico24

The biggest problem is drink driving like an idiot and speeding not the cars fault per say.If you can get past the mental paranoia about Chinese vehicles being unsafe.Then you will have a normal safe vehicle to drive around in.

My wife bought a cheap used Korean Hyundai for $3,400. She used it for 16 years, and it still ran great when we sold it in one day for $1,700 to get a new Yaris.

Needless to say, we're both big fans of really cheap vehicles. I'd buy a cheap Chinese car in a heartbeat... just not the first year of a model.