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04-26-2014, 11:19 PM | #1 |
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10 Most Reliable Brands
From 350,000 sample 'trade ins' from all over the United States :
https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motora...213610506.html 1.Toyota 2. Lexus 3. GMC 4. Honda 5-10. see link |
04-26-2014, 11:34 PM | #2 |
"The Corolla-based Prizm ... [is one of] the best Chevy cars when it comes to long-term reliability."
That's odd timing. The other day I noticed that lately I've been seeing more Prisms on the road, but came to the realization that I'm not seeing more of them, it's just that I'm seeing fewer surviving cars of that age on the road (i.e Neons, Cavaliers, etc.)
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04-27-2014, 08:05 AM | #4 |
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The website for the study he is developing http://tradeinqualityindex.com/ Is interesting. I've been looking at M35's recently, funny how he gives them a #1 rating. It amazes me how infinity never catches on, they make extremely reliable cars that perform just as well as anyone else.
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Wheres Mazda? The Miata has to be one of the most reliable cars ever built.
BTW I think its total BS that cars are longer lived today than they were say 20 years ago. Look on C list for 1998 models. You wont find many....
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You are misunderstanding. It is not that cars are longer lived, it is that the fleet as a whole is older than it has ever been. Aka people cannot afford to buy a newer car even if they wanted to. And the average certainly is not 20. It is 11.4. If you look for cars made in 2002, there are tons of them out there on used dealer lots.
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[QUOTE=why?;735417].
And the average certainly is not 20. It is 11.4. QUOTE] And 11.4 isn't any different from 30 years ago. At least MY cars!
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add to that an indisputably better rust protection out of the factory versus two decades ago. even in the Midwest it is rare to see a rusty 10 yr old car. it was commonplace 15-20+ yrs ago. I know that isn't mechanical reliability, but a person sure is less willing to put money into fixing something mechanical on a rust bucket versus a car with a sound body. here is a good article:(its not just a willingness to keep cars longer these days, its an actual ability to get them to 200,000+ without breaking the bank) http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/18/au...anted=all&_r=0 “Fifteen years ago, piston rings would show perhaps 50 microns of wear over the useful life of a vehicle,” Mr. Sorab said, referring to the engine part responsible for sealing combustion in the cylinder. “Today, it is less than 10 microns. As a benchmark, a human hair is 200 microns thick. " |
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Part of this MIGHT be from advertising hype (have to have the latest, coolest to fit in ), but part of this (how much = debatable) is DEFINITELY due to 'Cash for Clunkers'. This program reduced the number of available really inexpensive (often older) used cars and has buffeted up the prices of the remaining cars in that tier in a way that wouldn't have happened if it weren't for that program.
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That is true. I grew up in upstate NY and car looked like swiss cheese after maybe 10 years. Esp MoPars...
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