What are your favorite non-Yaris alternatives, and why?

[WeeYari]

Originally Posted by invader166

For me, I suppose it would have to be a Ford Fiesta. (not necessarily the ST trim, but if available, why not?)
That car has been a real success story in Europe since 1976.

And yet has abysmal reliability ratings in North America

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by WeeYari

And yet has abysmal reliability ratings in North America

I pulled into a space at Wal-Mart last night next to a brand new Fiesta ST (still had the dealer advertising plate placard). Color looked almost exactly like my '14. It was nice looking, but I still think about the Fiesta rental I had in Tampa last year......35,000 miles, and it felt as though it would fall apart any minute . At the 290,000 mile point (before the accident ), my blue Yaris felt extremely tight and solid by comparison.

[invader166]

Originally Posted by WeeYari

And yet has abysmal reliability ratings in North America

No kidding. Seems to be the norm with a lot of European imports these days. (Fiat, I'm looking at you)
I honestly wish I had an answer to that. My theory is that cars in Europe just aren't driven as much as cars in N. America, so manufacturers just don't bother using quality parts.
Whereas in N.America, people usually drive an average of about 25,000 miles a year.

[jambo101]

Our 08 Yaris sedan bought new has given us bulletproof reliability and economy so we will be staying with the Toyota Brand as their products have earned out loyalty, looking like summer of 2016 will be time to get something new, Toyota Rav4 is at the top of the list.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

Originally Posted by jambo101

Our 08 Yaris sedan bought new has given us bulletproof reliability and economy so we will be staying with the Toyota Brand as their products have earned out loyalty, looking like summer of 2016 will be time to get something new, Toyota Rav4 is at the top of the list.

I like the Rav4 and have owned one. Unfortunately, I think the current interior is on the cheap side, which is unfortunate because it is such a good vehicle. Maybe a refresh will fix that.

[The Limo 2]

My next car, if I was going to have a next car, would be a 2007-2011 Toyota Camry Hybrid. I have always liked them. Just like comfort and reliability. Don't like the body shape of the newer ones. Guess I am getting old.
Roy

[kimona]

I checked out the HR-V LX last week. I like the size, the styling is decent enough, and the interior is really quite nice. Don't like the colour options and all the tech crap that comes with the base model, but that's probably just me. The driving experience was just borderline due to the terrible CVT. I wish Honda USA had gone with the 6-speed automatic like in other export markets. If you're a manual tranny buff, then this model may work better for you. Too bad the base model isn't a little more basic; then, the price would be more attractive, too.

[nookandcrannycar]

I like the looks of the HR-V (on the internet ) but, like the CR-V, the AWD version isn't available with a manual.

[428CobraJet]

What am i looking at in addition to a
1. 2016 special order black SE 5 speed for 18k....the ocd alternative?
Well...in no certain order and i could buy tomorrow or in a year...
2. 2016 special order FiST in black with orange Recaros and flat black stripes. ...because it runs so sweet at 20k. Im afraid id have to prove my manliness at every light. Comes with advanced driver training.
3. 2014-15 Abarth - Cabriolet or not - in black or white with black or red leather. Black top. Its full of passion for under 20k. Whats to prove! Comes with advanced driver training. Will it hold up to 20,000 miles per year? Actually currently looking at leftover GQ...."the machine for the modern man!"triple black.
4. 2016 Japanese built Fit Ex in black because its the sensible alternative and comes with sunroof for 18k. Only non Yaris here that could truly replace my 2009. So practical. But the engine sounds terrible.
5. 2016 or expected-to-be-refreshed 2017 Japanese build Mazda3 5dr 6speed S GT...its pretty and has soul (especially in soul red with tan leather) for 24k. I want to wax it.
6. 2014 or 2015 Juke Nismo rs in black or white with red leather Recaros if it was 20k. A sense of humor. Good Design here...like the Mazda3.
7. 2016 Scion IM in black or blue and the 6 speed because my Yaris has been so good...and it looks somewhat as good as the Mazda3. Somewhat. 20k plus leather.
8. Screw it....a 2016 flat plane crank GT350 R in performance blue for 60k....because i might croak tomorrow!

Toyota, are you listening? Fomoco follows the forums, DO YOU????
Craig

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by 428CobraJet

What am i looking at in addition to a
1. 2016 special order black SE 5 speed for 18k....the ocd alternative?
Well...in no certain order and i could buy tomorrow or in a year...
2. 2016 special order FiST in black with orange Recaros and flat black stripes. ...because it runs so sweet at 20k. Im afraid id have to prove my manliness at every light. Comes with advanced driver training.
3. 2014-15 Abarth - Cabriolet or not - in black or white with black or red leather. Black top. Its full of passion for under 20k. Whats to prove! Comes with advanced driver training. Will it hold up to 20,000 miles per year? Actually currently looking at leftover GQ...."the machine for the modern man!"triple black.
4. 2016 Japanese built Fit Ex in black because its the sensible alternative and comes with sunroof for 18k. Only non Yaris here that could truly replace my 2009. So practical. But the engine sounds terrible.
5. 2016 or expected-to-be-refreshed 2017 Japanese build Mazda3 5dr 6speed S GT...its pretty and has soul (especially in soul red with tan leather) for 24k. I want to wax it.
6. 2014 or 2015 Juke Nismo rs in black or white with red leather Recaros if it was 20k. A sense of humor. Good Design here...like the Mazda3.
7. 2016 Scion IM in black or blue and the 6 speed because my Yaris has been so good...and it looks somewhat as good as the Mazda3. Somewhat. 20k plus leather.
8. Screw it....a 2016 flat plane crank GT350 R in performance blue for 60k....because i might croak tomorrow!

Toyota, are you listening? Fomoco follows the forums, DO YOU????
Craig

2016 Japanese built Fit EX ? Is the production for certain USDM Fit trim levels now going to be coming from Japan ?...or.....Importing one and doing any necessary modifications ? (...if that is possible)

[428CobraJet]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

2016 Japanese built Fit EX ? Is the production for certain USDM Fit trim levels now going to be coming from Japan ?...or.....Importing one and doing any necessary modifications ? (...if that is possible)

Apparently 2016 US deliveries will be supplemented by Japanese manufactured units. According to what i read on Fitafreaks forum.

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[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by 428CobraJet

Apparently 2016 US deliveries will be supplemented by Japanese manufactured units. According to what i read on Fitafreaks forum.

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[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by 428CobraJet

What am i looking at in addition to a
1. 2016 special order black SE 5 speed for 18k....the ocd alternative?
Well...in no certain order and i could buy tomorrow or in a year...
2. 2016 special order FiST in black with orange Recaros and flat black stripes. ...because it runs so sweet at 20k. Im afraid id have to prove my manliness at every light. Comes with advanced driver training.
3. 2014-15 Abarth - Cabriolet or not - in black or white with black or red leather. Black top. Its full of passion for under 20k. Whats to prove! Comes with advanced driver training. Will it hold up to 20,000 miles per year? Actually currently looking at leftover GQ...."the machine for the modern man!"triple black.
4. 2016 Japanese built Fit Ex in black because its the sensible alternative and comes with sunroof for 18k. Only non Yaris here that could truly replace my 2009. So practical. But the engine sounds terrible.
5. 2016 or expected-to-be-refreshed 2017 Japanese build Mazda3 5dr 6speed S GT...its pretty and has soul (especially in soul red with tan leather) for 24k. I want to wax it.
6. 2014 or 2015 Juke Nismo rs in black or white with red leather Recaros if it was 20k. A sense of humor. Good Design here...like the Mazda3.
7. 2016 Scion IM in black or blue and the 6 speed because my Yaris has been so good...and it looks somewhat as good as the Mazda3. Somewhat. 20k plus leather.
8. Screw it....a 2016 flat plane crank GT350 R in performance blue for 60k....because i might croak tomorrow!

Toyota, are you listening? Fomoco follows the forums, DO YOU????
Craig

You could wait for the 2016 Focus RS that will arrive in dealerships in the Spring of 2016...345 HP turbo 2.3 liter. Same engine in the Mustang = 310 HP. One trim level of the Civic Type-R will be available with a 308 HP engine that will be built in the USA. However, that engine won't be available in the Type-R for the USDM .

[bronsin]

In the past almost every manufacturer has stated that burning a quart of oil every 1000 miles is "normal" even when the car is new.

Just goes to show you what a gem we have in the Yaris!

My 1992 ST1100 Honda motorcycle took 100k miles to get to the point where it used half a quart in 3000 miles and that was a very hi performance engine.

[428CobraJet]

Originally Posted by bronsin

In the past almost every manufacturer has stated that burning a quart of oil every 1000 miles is "normal" even when the car is new.

Just goes to show you what a gem we have in the Yaris!

My 1992 ST1100 Honda motorcycle took 100k miles to get to the point where it used half a quart in 3000 miles and that was a very hi performance engine.

They are gems.

I'd be bent if my.new car used a quart every thousand miles.

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[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

In the past almost every manufacturer has stated that burning a quart of oil every 1000 miles is "normal" even when the car is new.

Just goes to show you what a gem we have in the Yaris!

My 1992 ST1100 Honda motorcycle took 100k miles to get to the point where it used half a quart in 3000 miles and that was a very hi performance engine.

My blue Yaris didn't start burning oil until 270,000 + miles, IIRC.....and my oil change regimen (...can't really call it a regimen...only about 20 over 300,000 miles) = pretty much the opposite of trini's 500,000 + miles of very frequent oil changes.

[BLKHILLSGUY]

Originally Posted by bronsin

In the past almost every manufacturer has stated that burning a quart of oil every 1000 miles is "normal" even when the car is new.

Just goes to show you what a gem we have in the Yaris!

My 1992 ST1100 Honda motorcycle took 100k miles to get to the point where it used half a quart in 3000 miles and that was a very hi performance engine.

I don't put a drop in between my 10k mile oil changes in my 13 Avalon Limited. Been that way in every Toyota I've ever owned.

[Kalispel]

Originally Posted by BLKHILLSGUY

I don't put a drop in between my 10k mile oil changes in my 13 Avalon Limited. Been that way in every Toyota I've ever owned.

Most of the Honda/Acuras that I have owned started losing a bit of oil to "worn seal" evaporation or whatever around 75-100K+ - but it was easily 100% remedied by simply adding a bottle of 'BARS Main Seal Repair' to the oil after after every oil change.