What will your next car be?

[kimona]

2017 Subaru Impreza v Mazda3 v Toyota Corolla v Holden Astra Comparison | Drive.com.au

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5dax2i5f0I

[Kalispel]

Originally Posted by kimona

2017 Subaru Impreza v Mazda3 v Toyota Corolla v Holden Astra Comparison | Drive.com.au

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5dax2i5f0I

That's a good review video to watch, even though it's the Australian market versions. I remember watching it a few months ago, and enjoyed it. Love how even the middle trim Corolla hatch (iM) in Australia has standard fog lights - and the top trim even has LED headlights. God, I hate the U.S. market for automobiles...

I will definitely be checking out both the Impreza and Crosstrek before making any final decisions late next year. I'm not sure if I like the hatch or sedan better when it comes to the Impreza. I wish they would have stuck with 17" wheels though. Not a fan of the newer trend of 'oversized' wheels & tires on vehicles. It looks somewhat comical, especially when the alloy design is pretty goofy (like with the Impreza, Crosstrek & iM). On the compact iM, I would be tempted to drop to 16" wheels and 50 series tires instead of 45, since it is really only slightly larger than a Yaris, overall.

[kimona]

Originally Posted by Kalispel

I'm not sure if I like the hatch or sedan better when it comes to the Impreza. I wish they would have stuck with 17" wheels though. Not a fan of the newer trend of 'oversized' wheels & tires on vehicles. It looks somewhat comical, especially when the alloy design is pretty goofy (like with the Impreza, Crosstrek & iM). On the compact iM, I would be tempted to drop to 16" wheels and 50 series tires instead of 45, since it is really only slightly larger than a Yaris, overall.

I agree with you.

The Impreza is available in 4 trims:

Base: 16x6.5 steel wheels (205/55/16)
Premium: 16x6.5 alloys (205/55/16)
Limited: 17x7 alloys (205/50/17)
Sport: 18x7.5 alloys (225/40/18)

[kimona]

Originally Posted by Kalispel

I will definitely be checking out both the Impreza and Crosstrek before making any final decisions late next year.

Actually, the Crosstrek was the car I wanted to check-out when I initially went to the Subaru dealership. However, when I sat in it, I immediately discovered that the seat was uncomfortable and had no lumbar support whatsoever... so I passed on it without a test-drive.

[Kalispel]

Originally Posted by kimona

Actually, the Crosstrek was the car I wanted to check-out when I initially went to the Subaru dealership. However, when I sat in it, I immediately discovered that the seat was uncomfortable and had no lumbar support whatsoever... so I passed on it without a test-drive.

I would think that the Crosstrek would have had the same seats as the Impreza, since they are built the same platform. I guess I will find out when I sit in one in a few months. It's interesting when you visit the various forums of different cars, and see that some people hate the seats (or whatever), while others find them comfortable & fine. The Honda HR-V springs to mind first, in that regard. I guess that height, girth, limb/torso proportions and other things probably play into why seats (or steering wheel position) are horrible for one person and okay for another.

[Kalispel]

I checked out my first Toyota iM in-person today at the dealership while waiting for my oil change & tire rotation. They had a single Barcelona Red Metallic one on the lot. It's a much better looking and feeling car in person than the pictures or videos online give it credit for - especially in that gorgeous color w/all the black piano trim. The loads of white and silver iM's they had didn't look half as good to me. This particular dealership tints all their new cars (Ughh.) and I noticed that every one of them had very noticeable tinting flaws on the back window portion in the same spots. Not sure if that is a difficult window to tint without air seams around the edges or what. I know that I would never buy a dealer-tinted car, because I prefer to pick my own tinting shop and quality brand/grade of tint to install. I still haven't test drove one yet, due to time limitations, so that is something for down the road. I'm still not trusting of CVT quality over the long-term, even on a Toyota, and would probably be tempted to go manual transmission once again if I went with an iM. Seems like I read about a lot of premature failure issues with CVT's across all auto brands, even on the latest Toyota Corolla - which uses the same CVT as the iM if I am not mistaken.

I also checked out the lone 2018 Yaris (L) they had on the lot, sitting next to the dozen or so iM's they had. Hated the horribly cheap look of the new taillights and the weird position they sit relative to the rest of the car design. The front of the L model actually looks better (to me) than the front of the 2015-2017 L model though. I'm definitely crossing the 2018 version Yaris off my list now, just for those awful awful low-rent taillights, if nothing else. It's mind boggling how the 2018 Yaris SE and iM can be at virtually the same price point, when the iM is such a nicer, refined, better-equipped car (and still made in Japan!).

I somewhat expect comparable Subaru Impreza models to be a more-deluxe car than the iM, overall, since the Sport & Limited trims are anywhere between $3-5K higher in price. I will probably go check them & the Crosstrek out sometime early next year, and get around to test driving an iM in both manual & CVT. I've read rumors that the next-gen 'global platform' iM/Auris (2019?) and Corolla (2020?) will have BMW engines, and I'm not sure I like that, even if they are more 'modern' and powerful. BMW isn't exactly known to be reliable and trouble free. I also read that the next-gen iM/Auris will no longer be built in Japan - I think they are setting up NA production for Mexico. Again, not very thrilled with that prospect at all, and won't buy any car built there.

[ern-diz]

#WRX_STi

[Captain Yaris]

I’ll just leave this here...

[kimona]

^^^ IMHO, wicked UGLY lower front end!!!

[Thirty-Nine]

I bought a 2017 Mitsubishi Mirage ES hatch a couple months ago. I honestly can say I love this little thing. It's simple, basic, and was a great deal.

So far, added a weighted shift knob and bought 195/50/15 Yokohama S.Drives mounted on 15x6.5 (+38) MB Revolt wheels. I can honestly say it's the most noticeable tire upgrade I've ever done. Then again, 165/65/14 low-rolling resistance tires aren't exactly great for handling.

I also just bought side skirts for it and will be getting a lowered suspension and rear sway bar on it shortly. Don't worry, I still have my Yaris.

[kimona]

^^^ NICE! Wheels and tyres look good.

Is that Mitsubishi emblem removable without leaving holes?

[ern-diz]

Originally Posted by kimona

^^^ NICE! Wheels and tires look good.

+1

Looks really good from the pic. Love the color; is it OEM?

[Hershey]

Mirage looking good with those tires . How's the gas mileage ? Few weeks ago we test drove a '17 G4 with the C.V.T.. Managed to get 40 during the drive with 2 of us and temps hovering around 35 . Car kept up fine on the interstate . The steering wheel seemed off . Had a tendency to go to the right when wheel was level ( possible low tire pressure ? ) . They're known for poor alignment and to much play in the steering from the factory . The car was under $13,000 . Have you been to the MIRAGE / G4 owners site ? If not , http://mirageforum.com/index.php

[Thirty-Nine]

Originally Posted by kimona

^^^ NICE! Wheels and tyres look good.

Is that Mitsubishi emblem removable without leaving holes?

I don't know. Good question.

Originally Posted by ern-diz

+1

Looks really good from the pic. Love the color; is it OEM?

Yes, Mercury Gray. (The wheels are also the original color)

Originally Posted by Hershey

Mirage looking good with those tires . How's the gas mileage ? Few weeks ago we test drove a '17 G4 with the C.V.T.. Managed to get 40 during the drive with 2 of us and temps hovering around 35 . Car kept up fine on the interstate . The steering wheel seemed off . Had a tendency to go to the right when wheel was level ( possible low tire pressure ? ) . They're known for poor alignment and to much play in the steering from the factory . The car was under $13,000 . Have you been to the MIRAGE / G4 owners site ? If not , http://mirageforum.com/index.php

We averaged 49 mpg on the way up to Victoria, BC over Thanksgiving. We generally are between 35 and 44 on the narrow 165s. Not sure yet on the 195s. I actually took them off last night for winter.

Our steering wheel is actually slightly cocked to the left. Need to bring it in and see if they can align it. I don't have too much play, however.

I am an active member on mirageforum.com. It's a really good group.

[junorico24]

LDV G10. You probably don't know what this is, it's a UK brand Leyland brought by SAIC the biggest Chinese car company. I've seen a few of these in Australia and it is a good looker.Believe it or not AUSTRLAIANS ARE buying these Chinese cars.Money talks for the price you get a lot. I don't want to be part of the normal car scene. I want something i can sleep in on long drives, have loads of room to put stuff in and not worry about not having room LOL.



There's a few Chinese brands here now as well. LDV, FOTON, HAVAL and GREAT WALL MOTORS. I don't know about America but Astrayans are buying them. OK some Chinese car manufacturers have come here some didn't survive like Chery and Geely. But these new ones are strong contenders.



I also want an NC Mita RWD fun sportscar.

[jayeh]

Originally Posted by junorico24

LDV G10. You probably don't know what this is, it's a UK brand Leyland brought by SAIC the biggest Chinese car company. I've seen a few of these in Australia and it is a good looker.Believe it or not AUSTRLAIANS ARE buying these Chinese cars.Money talks for the price you get a lot. I don't want to be part of the normal car scene. I want something i can sleep in on long drives, have loads of room to put stuff in and not worry about not having room LOL.



There's a few Chinese brands here now as well. LDV, FOTON, HAVAL and GREAT WALL MOTORS. I don't know about America but Astrayans are buying them. OK some Chinese car manufacturers have come here some didn't survive like Chery and Geely. But these new ones are strong contenders.



I also want an NC Mita RWD fun sportscar.

Do they sell the Toyota Avanza in Australia?

I saw them on Vacation in Mexico and thought it was a nifty little car. We don't get such convenient practical cars here in Canada. If you want a third row you have to go all the way up to a Sienna Minivan or full size SUV with a monster engine.

[junorico24]

Originally Posted by jayeh

Do they sell the Toyota Avanza in Australia?

I saw them on Vacation in Mexico and thought it was a nifty little car. We don't get such convenient practical cars here in Canada. If you want a third row you have to go all the way up to a Sienna Minivan or full size SUV with a monster engine.

Yes. We have.

We have French, Swedish, Italian, Chinese and Malaysian cars sold here as well.

Chinese..

FOTON.



HAVAL.



Great Wall.





LDV



Malaysian.

PROTON.

[Kalispel]

I would LOVE to buy a hybrid subcompact/compact, but the US market is a stomach-wrenchingly bad joke in that regard - at least from any brand that I would considering buying a vehicle from. Sorry, those Prius abominations just don't cut it, and the Lexus CT200H is really just too loaded and snotty for my taste (not to mention discontinued as of 2017). Give us a sensible hybrid Auris/iM or Yaris 'H-SE'. On the bright side, Toyota has indicated that they plan to have hybrid or electric versions of all their models available by 2025 - though I doubt either the Yaris or iM will be around in the US by that time.