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04-11-2011, 12:10 PM | #163 |
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" toyota put that black gasket maker in there? really? they made a mess of a job. "
Can you imagine how much of the black Form In Place Gasket ( F.I.P.G.) sealer that may have ended up inside the engine as well . I did several short runs of fresh oil and filter to flush out any that may have been inside the engine . This is part of the reason we'll be getting an U.O.A. for the 2008 sedan in mid MAY . Will post that . Last edited by Hershey; 04-11-2011 at 01:50 PM. |
04-11-2011, 01:55 PM | #164 |
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Plan to go back to our freinds 2010 YARIS and then mark the coolant level in the resorvoir when it's cold . That way I can hopefully monitor it to see if any coolant is being lost . Worth a try .
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04-11-2011, 06:36 PM | #165 |
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Hershey, my gasket appears to be still ok, but I need avisual to verify it. Gotta jam the camera in there still....
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04-11-2011, 06:46 PM | #166 |
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04-11-2011, 07:29 PM | #167 |
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04-12-2011, 12:02 AM | #168 |
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" Hershey, my gasket appears to be still ok, but I need avisual to verify it. Gotta jam the camera in there still... "
I've had plenty of practice with photo shoots of modeling YARIS engines with oil leaks . Get to know the angles , lighting , etc.. These last photos of our friends 2010 YARIS aren't too pretty are they ? May have to open a studio just for YARIS with oil leaks . |
04-12-2011, 01:27 AM | #169 |
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Reason why we're posting of the head cylinder gasket issue is that we don't want to see those who own a new / used YARIS to possibly encounter a H.C.G. failure after the 5 year / 60,000 mile warranty runs out which would be an expensive fix out of their pockets . We can understand how this could make owners a bit uneasy . Not wanting their vehicle touched because of possible issues with the car during and after the fix . It's their car , their call . Here again is the picture of a YARIS owner who had the M.L.S. head cylinder gasket replaced at a 102,000 miles by a TOYOTA service center said to be due to the external oil leak and an internal coolant leak . Most likely at the owners expense . TOYOTA needs to come forth on this matter .
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04-13-2011, 01:22 PM | #170 |
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Here's the pics Gonzo452001 took of their 2008 3 door located on page 7 , post #123 from March 2nd , 2011 , http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/sho...t=31470&page=7 . I've also included pictures of our 2010 YARIS 3 door with area cleaned , AUXMIKES pic , and our friends 2010 3 door for comparison of all 4 cars . Never heard back from Gonzo452001 . I plan not to clean off the oil that leaks from the M.L.S. h.c.g. of our 2010 for about 10,000 miles to see how oil / grime ( dust ) builds up for comparison to AUXMIKE , GONZO452001 , and our friends 2010 . Will take awhile . Top is our 2010 cleaned of oil , GONZO ( 2 pics of '08 ) , AUXMIKE ( 1 pic of '08 ) , and 3 pics of the friends 2010 3 door . May need to ZOOM out a bit for better look .
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04-16-2011, 01:20 PM | #171 |
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Will be monitoring how much oil gathers on the block from the H.C.G. as time and miles build up for comparison to pics above . Thoroughly cleaned the area of oil / residue before the oil change at 16,611 miles on March 7 , 2011 . Here's pictures taken at 18,053 miles on March 16 . There's 1,442.4 miles (Trip B ) on the oil since the O.C.. You'll notice a small amount of oil circled in BLUE .Theres' also a thin coating of oil on the whole area that has a sheen ( glimmer ) to it , but since being fairly fresh oil it's hard to see , but is wet to the touch . Clearer image when ZOOMED out at 50 > 75% .
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04-16-2011, 01:43 PM | #172 |
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Will also monitor the coolant level of the resorvoir for the 2008 sedan since the multi layered steel head cylinder replacement at 23,747 miles due to the same oil leak of the H.C.G.. Marked the coolant level with a black permanent magic marker after sitting overnight at 43 degree temp . Here's pictures of the level , hopefully there will be no loss of coolant . Will keep tabs ( when coolant cold ) and post if any loss . Clearer image when ZOOMED out at 50 > 75% .
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04-16-2011, 02:38 PM | #173 | |
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04-22-2011, 07:45 AM | #174 |
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Hershey and all....
I have been monitoring the block for about 2 weeks now ever since I wiped down the area, and so far, there are no visible signs of oil. I did go one step further and you guys may want to try. I took a white piece of stiff paper and used it like a shim and I was able to insert it in between the head gasket and cylinder head and then between the block and the head gasket and ran it along the area in Henrys photo as I wanted to see if there was any oil reside still in this area, and the paper came out clean, no oil. Not sure what this means at this point, but I am hoping that maybe my situation is only that the oil might have come from the timing chain cover area and just ran along the block (maybe!)... Feedback from other members would be great.. P.S.. Henry I re used you photo. I will upload one of my photos Last edited by CB900F2; 04-22-2011 at 09:55 AM. |
04-22-2011, 08:27 PM | #175 |
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Let the car go for awhile to see if it ends up like this ( 2010 Yaris ) . If not , then maybe you're in the clear . Thanks for the effort .
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05-08-2011, 06:21 AM | #176 |
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Hey guys.. So far, every day I have been monitoring the head gasket, and it appears at this point, I may just have a very small leak at the point where the timing cover and the block/head meet. I attached a photo where about every 2 to 3 days, there is a very small amount of oil, and I have to use a q-tip to actually see it by wiping the area with the the q-tip. I checked with the q-tip the area around the actual gasket, and along the block(HG) and no oil.
I attached a photo of the area. Last edited by CB900F2; 05-08-2011 at 07:14 AM. |
05-08-2011, 11:23 AM | #177 |
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The oil comes from under the H.C.G. and runs down along the sealant of the timing chain cover and also runs under the the ledge as I pictured above . Did you look from under the car up to the bottom of the ledge where oil collects underneath ? Thanks for posting and sorry to see your car leaks oil .
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05-08-2011, 12:57 PM | #178 |
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Don't forget the '08 sedan had the same oil leak that ran down along the sealant of the timing chain cover to the lip of the oil pan and no longer leaks since the replacement of the factory H.C.G..
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05-08-2011, 01:54 PM | #179 | |
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Hi Hershey... In my case, there is no oil on the underside of the same area.. I did use the shim check as noted in another one of my post during the past few weeks and no oil.
Will keep a close eye on the situation and will post updates Quote:
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05-09-2011, 07:30 PM | #180 |
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May want to let it go for a week or so to if it builds up . Then check . Hopefully you're fine . Will likely post an used oil analysis for the 2008 sedan that had the head cylnider gasket replaced at 23,747 miles in the begining of last September and no oil leaking from the #1 cylinder as of yet ( 30,945 mis. ) . It may be loosing coolant since the repair and there was an excessive amount of TOYOTA black form in place gasket ( F.I.P.G. ) silicone sealant used during the repair under warranty . Will be interesting to see if any signs for one or both . Best of luck to you and your YARIS .
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