Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[sqcomp]

Next steps...I need to see where my imperfections are so that I can fill them:


^ Notice the "notch" where it looks like the plastic is cut funky and not in a straight line? It's actually a trick on the eyes.


^See? No real notch. Lots of places to fill and sand still.

That's one of the things high build primer is good for. If the primer can't cover it up, you absolutely know you need to work the issue out.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Next steps...I need to see where my imperfections are so that I can fill them:

^ Notice the "notch" where it looks like the plastic is cut funky and not in a straight line? It's actually a trick on the eyes.


^See? No real notch. Lots of places to fill and sand still.

That's one of the things high build primer is good for. If the primer can't cover it up, you absolutely know you need to work the issue out.

Wow!

Did you get new a-pillars?

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[derickveliz2]

Here is my x-over graph!



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[derickveliz2]

And my Time / Alignment Data... Before my Next Auto EQ+T/A



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[sqcomp]

Absolutely new pillars.

Let's talk about your crossover points. That midbass, what is the range again? From what to what? looks like you've got some 24 dB slopes and 30 dB slopes mixed in there. That right side TA on the mid and low seem way far off. I'm concerned that there are some issues with phasing (only a suspicion though). Figure about the real distance between the mids and tweeters on the right side...are they really THAT far apart?

This is of course only observation off my own experience.

See? This is why you need to be out here. We've got Coffee Creek Correctional facility not 5 miles away form my place. Job! Bam! :P

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Absolutely new pillars.

Let's talk about your crossover points. That midbass, what is the range again? From what to what? looks like you've got some 24 dB slopes and 30 dB slopes mixed in there. That right side TA on the mid and low seem way far off. I'm concerned that there are some issues with phasing (only a suspicion though). Figure about the real distance between the mids and tweeters on the right side...are they really THAT far apart?

This is of course only observation off my own experience.

See? This is why you need to be out here. We've got Coffee Creek Correctional facility not 5 miles away form my place. Job! Bam! :P

How much did you pay for the new a-pillars?

midbass is 50Hz to (one click before 200Hz) I can't remember

Phasing... it could be that has been the hardest part for me to figure out correctly.

I'll check on the distance between the mids and tweeters on the right side tomorrow.

All my tuning has been by ear, here is the Auto T/A: (and that was with the sub in the trunk)



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[sqcomp]

Oh GAWD...I despize the Auto TA. It doesn't work.

Oh! I just picked up an eibach pro kit. See? I'm trying to be like Derick!

I say make the mid measure within 2" of the tweeter measurement because that's truly what it is IIRC.

The pillars were something like $95 a piece from toyotapartszone.com. They've got great service and get the parts out quickly. I say that also knowing they're in California.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I say make the mid measure within 2" of the tweeter measurement because that's truly what it is IIRC.
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Really? it's more like 10", I'll check tomorrow.

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[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Oh! I just picked up an eibach pro kit. See? I'm trying to be like Derick!

Welcome to the...

Sweet and Low ride!

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[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

The pillars were something like $95 a piece from toyotapartszone.com. They've got great service and get the parts out quickly. I say that also knowing they're in California.

Thank you,

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[sqcomp]

I'm thinking the midrange and tweeter, not the low and tweeter. I thought you had the mid up in the pillar. IIRC, the difference between the right side tweeter and right side mid was only an inch or two...

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I'm thinking the midrange and tweeter, not the low and tweeter. I thought you had the mid up in the pillar. IIRC, the difference between the right side tweeter and right side mid was only an inch or two...

My mids are down in the kick area!



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[sqcomp]

Crap! I forgot about that. He he...carry on.

[derickveliz2]

What do you think about this:



LINK

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[sqcomp]

I like the link...especially the musical suggestions. I just purchased all of the musical selections.

The picture is interesting. We shouldn't constrain ourselves to live within the pillars though. I LOVE the depth aspect of the picture though.

[derickveliz2]

Here are my thoughts about how the "Front Stage" differs from car to car, for example:

A Ford Mustang, is greatly favorable Front Stage because the proportions of it's body style, and the 2nd and 3rd graphics from a Yaris Sedan! with MIDS in kick area and OEM door location.

See the difference in Center Stage between both? on the Mustang you could feel people singing on the hood! I know we can manipulate the stage, but physically the Car has to do a LOT in Car Audio Systems.

3rd image shows the Point Source "MIDs" in the OEM Doors location, the stage moves towards listener, and every thing else is about the same.

Please let me know what you think, and correct me if I'm wrong.







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[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I just purchased all of the musical selections.

Did you really?

any good ones?

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[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I just purchased all of the musical selections.

Where did you buy "Shoo Fly Don't Bother Me"?

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