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I think that if everyone would read a bit of it and come up with something they agree with/disagree with and then hash it out that way it would be a lot better. Nothing gets solved with one-sided debates about things. And really, I don't care what side of the fence you're on - you can't trust a politician and what he says to you becuase they are only looking out for themselves and the interests of who will be voting them into another term |
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08-15-2009, 02:05 AM | #183 | |
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And, I don't know anyone who buys that crock of shit 'he's not an American!' - it's the crazy conspiracy theorists who sit back and think of these things while tin-foiling their windows to block out the CIA brainwashing rays from entering their houses that think of this stuff, I'm pretty sure. Anyone with .03% of a brain knows that the administration and the GOP would have absolutely blown this guy out of the water if he truly wasn't a US Citizen, I have been annoyed with that since the allegations first came out. I LOL'd in line at the grocery store yesterday as the headline of Globe or whatever that completely made-up 'news'paper is when I looked and the cover had a picture of some birth certificate and said 'OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE FAKE! PROOF INSIDE!' or something to that .... it was the dumbest thing I had seen in a long time. |
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08-15-2009, 02:22 AM | #184 |
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because deception is the word of choice for the people implying that Obama is some sort of evil person (the antichrist, even).
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http://www.pollster.com/blogs/distur...eliefs_abo.php another one that finds basically the same numbers even though they didn't believe the findings of the first one. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-obamas-birth/ It is not just a couple of crazies. |
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Why are we suddenly talking about his birth certificate? I'm talking about health care right now. The video I posted has nothing to do with questioning his citizenship. A long time ago? It was 2007 for God sakes. Are you guys blind to what Obama says himself and just amazed at how he says it? My judgments of him come from the whole picture not just what he reads off of his handy dandy teleprompter everyday. You have to look at what he truly believes and he has come out and said these things over and over in the past. You just can't erase them. And why is Fox News, Glenn Beck ect. bring brought up. I never said I got my info from that. I draw my own conclusions. |
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Want to talk health insurance? Ok. Tomorrow you magically wake up as an insurance executive. You're paid a healthy salary and a tasty bonus. If you're smart and I'm sure you are how long will it take for you to start categorizing your customers like this? 1. Assets - people that represent a profit - their premiums exceeds their claims. 2. Liabilities - people you're losing money on but it might only be temporary. Maybe they've got an accident prone kid or they're just experiencing a run of bad luck. 3. OMG LIABILITIES - we're talking serious illnesses here that are going to really hurt the bottom line. How long will it take you to grow some calluses and learn to "do what's right" for your company, your shareholders and your family? Think you have health insurance? You have a health agreement that either side can cancel at any time for any reason. |
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08-15-2009, 10:13 AM | #188 |
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These are fair things to bring up. I can discredit almost everything you have said so far. There is a group of about 30% of americans who agree with you. The media is making it look like it's a much bigger group, but it certainly isn't. Maybe you aren't a "birther," but most of the people who agree with you on this issue are. It is important because it represents the problem with gathering faulty information from biased sources. You don't respond to any of the criticisms of anything you believe, you just respond to what you feel is an attack against you. You also refer to disagreeing with you as being "deceived" or "lied to" by the president which hints at something much deeper than disagreeing with his policy on health care. It's a fair game to play. |
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Again, he actually spells out how these gradual steps must first take place before total control is implemented (single payer). He knows that he can't just come and do it all at once. I can't make this stuff up. It's right there in front of you. Don't believe for a second that all they want is a government option to compete with the current system. BTW, I've never seen such a high % of liberals on a board. This is tough! After all, the breakdown in America is 40% conservative, 20% liberal, 40% moderate. About 60% of Americans strongly disappove of this proposed health care reform. |
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08-16-2009, 02:56 AM | #191 | |
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Seriously, go to the article, check out their sources. If they aren't reputable, come on here and explain why. They simply compiled the facts in a convenient and easy to access place. A TRUE no-spin zone, if you will. Don't go around ragging on people for not reading the bill when you yourself have not even gotten through it. "Do as I say not as I do" much?
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Was there a lady on there that was claiming a swine flu shot was really a depopulation conspiracy?
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08-16-2009, 02:58 PM | #195 |
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Really guys? Really? Because I can find plenty of f'n nut jobs on liberal sites, too. J-F'N-C way to be 'tolerant'
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/dɪˈsɛpʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [di-sep-shuhn] Show IPA Use deception in a Sentence –noun 1. the act of deceiving; the state of being deceived. 2. something that deceives or is intended to deceive; fraud; artifice. |
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08-16-2009, 03:02 PM | #197 | |
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You should run for congress - they seem to do the same thing. |
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08-16-2009, 03:10 PM | #198 |
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There is no it. There is no bill. Hellloooooooo
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