ABS and "!" lights are ON again! - Page 12 - Toyota Yaris Forums

mojoyaris · 02-26-2010, 02:00 AM

I hate to say it. Toyota Canada and Lexus Canada have not been very friendly lately.
I was getting a bad runaround from the competition guys at Lexus and they can't even give me a straight answer! Really!

I don't have ABS, but I did have a seatbelt problem. It still hasn't been fixed. Which doesn't matter anymore, the car is gutted out and out of warranty! LOL.

I did try to meet with someone at Toyota BC's head office in Richmond and the only person to talk to there is the security guard. I couldn't even find out who I could talk to.

It's a shame that Toyota thinks they're so big that they can't talk to a customer. They seem to leave it to the dealers to handle all the mess and nowadays it seems the dealers aren't any better. My GF has a 2009 Corolla which has been recalled..... She's had to bring it in three times and it's still not fixed.

Do you guys really need ABS? Why not just take it out?

devinlamothe · 02-26-2010, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojoyaris

I hate to say it. Toyota Canada and Lexus Canada have not been very friendly lately.
I was getting a bad runaround from the competition guys at Lexus and they can't even give me a straight answer! Really!

I don't have ABS, but I did have a seatbelt problem. It still hasn't been fixed. Which doesn't matter anymore, the car is gutted out and out of warranty! LOL.

I did try to meet with someone at Toyota BC's head office in Richmond and the only person to talk to there is the security guard. I couldn't even find out who I could talk to.

It's a shame that Toyota thinks they're so big that they can't talk to a customer. They seem to leave it to the dealers to handle all the mess and nowadays it seems the dealers aren't any better. My GF has a 2009 Corolla which has been recalled..... She's had to bring it in three times and it's still not fixed.

Do you guys really need ABS? Why not just take it out?

The issue is we PAID for ABS, which is an added safety feature. Why would we just 'take it out'? That's giving up!

mojoyaris · 02-26-2010, 10:22 PM

I never liked the ABS in the Yaris. It kicked in too early for my taste. However since you wanted it in the first place it should be working in the first place. I totally agree with you and how Toyota should be doing something. Especially in light of all of this.

Have to say, I'm really dissapointed in them. It'd be nice for them to give me a call and prove otherwise.

Toyota, Lexus Canada, Hope you're reading this and give me a shout. You know who I am. Ask Chad.

Red Cell · 02-27-2010, 08:54 PM

Interesting.

My wife's pre-owned 2006 Yaris RS Auto-Hatch isn't even "3 hrs old" and I see that the dreaded ABS light has come on (was not there during the test-drive). Since we are fortunate enough to still have 1 year on the extended "and" 90 days bumper-bumper, I've already made the call to the dealership and have an apt for Tuesday.

Geez, we'll see how this turns out.

Red Cell.

Re: 37,500km's

devinlamothe · 03-03-2010, 07:57 AM

Guys, Ottawa is now investigating Toyota. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE if you have not already, lodge a complaint with the Transport Canada Complaint Dept. so they will see this IS an issue that needs to be resolved:

https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/7/PCDB-BDpp?Index

Remember, the more people complain, the more Ottawa will have a case to pressure Toyota into doing something!

jznomoney · 03-16-2010, 12:31 PM

Is there a repair guide for this problem? A picture of the faulty harness and such?

onizuka · 03-16-2010, 07:01 PM

It would seem that once was enough for Toyota North America President Yoshimi Inaba. Just weeks after the top Toyota executive went before a congressional hearing in the United States, The Globe and Mail is reporting that Inaba has turned down a similar invitation to appear before the Canadian government. The topic of conversation? Why, the massive Toyota recall efforts and safety, of course.

Officials for the Harper Administration in Canada are expressing a great deal of disappointment at the apparent snub, with Merv Tweed, the Conservative MP chairing the Toyota committee, going so far as to say that Inaba's no-show would amount to a slight to the Canadian government and people, suggesting that Toyota perceives that the "American market is more important."

The Canadian government reportedly plans to once again request that Inaba attend its hearings. If Toyota refuses the request, parliament could issue a subpoena to Inaba, though the Toyota executive neither lives nor works in Canada, meaning he could potentially avoid the summons by keeping out of the country entirely.

For its part, Toyota Canada claims it does not report to Inaba and notes that CEO Yoichi Tomihara and managing director Stephen Beatty will attend on behalf of the company.

UPDATE: Despite continuing to insist that Toyota North America President Yoshimi Inaba has no responsibility for matters regarding recall and safety issues in Canada, Toyota has relented and Inaba will appear before the Parliament of Canada today.

[Source: The Globe and Mail]

fidgell · 03-16-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jznomoney

Is there a repair guide for this problem? A picture of the faulty harness and such?

As one who did "the clean" and fixed the problem, which hasnt come back yet, Ive been asked by quite a few for a photo of the connection concerned. I plan to get this done soon as Ive been really busy, Im no internet ace though and am looking at how to get the picture on the board!!!

Watch this space!!!

WeeYari · 03-16-2010, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fidgell

Im no internet ace though and am looking at how to get the picture on the board!!!

Should help you.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11114

fidgell · 03-17-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WeeYari

Should help you.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11114

Thanks for that, Im changing out of the winter wheels this weekend so Ill take the pictures then and get them on here soon as I can.....

paulyates · 03-17-2010, 02:31 PM

Here's a pic of the ABS Sensor plug.
Credit to poster in Hub Spacer thread.
These are the front sensors I think, but would not imagine a big difference.

PY

jznomoney · 03-22-2010, 12:10 PM

is there a way to disable abs for now like a fuse till i get to look at the sensors? Also when the abs light comes on, i hear a humming sound for a second then the brakes make a weird sound, then the light comes on. Then I can brake without abs, just normal brakes.

Bluevitz-rs · 03-22-2010, 04:36 PM

Yeah, there should be an ABS relay you can pull from the fuse panel under the hood.

jznomoney · 03-22-2010, 05:06 PM

I found in the manual a fuse number 8 30a says abs2 and a fuse number 46 50a says abs1. Does that sound right?

Bluevitz-rs · 03-22-2010, 05:33 PM

You should have a relay in there that says ABS.

jznomoney · 03-22-2010, 05:46 PM

so its not abs1 or abs2 on this diagram?

Bluevitz-rs · 03-22-2010, 07:02 PM

Yeah, pulling thee will disable the ABS but will also dissable the VSC. My echo has a relay that I can pull. I just figured the Yaris had one too.

fidgell · 03-30-2010, 02:17 PM

So, its been a few months and the problem hasnt returned!!! Ive switched back to summer wheels so shouldnt see it again this year at least... anyway here's pictures of the affected site for those who messaged me. Sorry it took so long!

02-26-2010, 02:00 AM	#199
mojoyaris Ecurie Snoopy Lives View User's Garage Drives: Jojo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver Posts: 447	I hate to say it. Toyota Canada and Lexus Canada have not been very friendly lately. I was getting a bad runaround from the competition guys at Lexus and they can't even give me a straight answer! Really! I don't have ABS, but I did have a seatbelt problem. It still hasn't been fixed. Which doesn't matter anymore, the car is gutted out and out of warranty! LOL. I did try to meet with someone at Toyota BC's head office in Richmond and the only person to talk to there is the security guard. I couldn't even find out who I could talk to. It's a shame that Toyota thinks they're so big that they can't talk to a customer. They seem to leave it to the dealers to handle all the mess and nowadays it seems the dealers aren't any better. My GF has a 2009 Corolla which has been recalled..... She's had to bring it in three times and it's still not fixed. Do you guys really need ABS? Why not just take it out? __________________ Sponsors and Organizations: Toyota Rally Canada Yokohama Tire Canada Western Canada Rally Association Ecurie (Team) Snoopy Canada, racing since 1966

02-26-2010, 10:22 PM	#201
mojoyaris Ecurie Snoopy Lives View User's Garage Drives: Jojo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver Posts: 447	I never liked the ABS in the Yaris. It kicked in too early for my taste. However since you wanted it in the first place it should be working in the first place. I totally agree with you and how Toyota should be doing something. Especially in light of all of this. Have to say, I'm really dissapointed in them. It'd be nice for them to give me a call and prove otherwise. Toyota, Lexus Canada, Hope you're reading this and give me a shout. You know who I am. Ask Chad. __________________ Sponsors and Organizations: Toyota Rally Canada Yokohama Tire Canada Western Canada Rally Association Ecurie (Team) Snoopy Canada, racing since 1966

03-17-2010, 02:31 PM	#209
paulyates Drives: 2007 HB Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 5	Picture of clip from another poster Here's a pic of the ABS Sensor plug. Credit to poster in Hub Spacer thread. These are the front sensors I think, but would not imagine a big difference. PY Attached Images

03-22-2010, 05:46 PM	#214
jznomoney Drives: Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: PA Posts: 9	so its not abs1 or abs2 on this diagram? Attached Images

03-30-2010, 02:17 PM	#216
fidgell Drives: 2006 Yaris RS 3 door Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Barrie ON Canada Posts: 58	So, its been a few months and the problem hasnt returned!!! Ive switched back to summer wheels so shouldnt see it again this year at least... anyway here's pictures of the affected site for those who messaged me. Sorry it took so long! Attached Images

02-27-2010, 08:54 PM	#202
Red Cell I've made a post! Drives: 2006 Yaris RS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 1	Interesting. My wife's pre-owned 2006 Yaris RS Auto-Hatch isn't even "3 hrs old" and I see that the dreaded ABS light has come on (was not there during the test-drive). Since we are fortunate enough to still have 1 year on the extended "and" 90 days bumper-bumper, I've already made the call to the dealership and have an apt for Tuesday. Geez, we'll see how this turns out. Red Cell. Re: 37,500km's

03-03-2010, 07:57 AM	#203
devinlamothe Drives: '07 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sudbury, Canada Posts: 520	Guys, Ottawa is now investigating Toyota. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE if you have not already, lodge a complaint with the Transport Canada Complaint Dept. so they will see this IS an issue that needs to be resolved: https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/7/PCDB-BDpp?Index Remember, the more people complain, the more Ottawa will have a case to pressure Toyota into doing something!

03-16-2010, 12:31 PM	#204
jznomoney Drives: Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: PA Posts: 9	Is there a repair guide for this problem? A picture of the faulty harness and such?

03-16-2010, 07:01 PM	#205
onizuka Drives: Yaris Blk 5 Drs RS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 45	It would seem that once was enough for Toyota North America President Yoshimi Inaba. Just weeks after the top Toyota executive went before a congressional hearing in the United States, The Globe and Mail is reporting that Inaba has turned down a similar invitation to appear before the Canadian government. The topic of conversation? Why, the massive Toyota recall efforts and safety, of course. Officials for the Harper Administration in Canada are expressing a great deal of disappointment at the apparent snub, with Merv Tweed, the Conservative MP chairing the Toyota committee, going so far as to say that Inaba's no-show would amount to a slight to the Canadian government and people, suggesting that Toyota perceives that the "American market is more important." The Canadian government reportedly plans to once again request that Inaba attend its hearings. If Toyota refuses the request, parliament could issue a subpoena to Inaba, though the Toyota executive neither lives nor works in Canada, meaning he could potentially avoid the summons by keeping out of the country entirely. For its part, Toyota Canada claims it does not report to Inaba and notes that CEO Yoichi Tomihara and managing director Stephen Beatty will attend on behalf of the company. UPDATE: Despite continuing to insist that Toyota North America President Yoshimi Inaba has no responsibility for matters regarding recall and safety issues in Canada, Toyota has relented and Inaba will appear before the Parliament of Canada today. [Source: The Globe and Mail]

03-22-2010, 12:10 PM	#210
jznomoney Drives: Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: PA Posts: 9	is there a way to disable abs for now like a fuse till i get to look at the sensors? Also when the abs light comes on, i hear a humming sound for a second then the brakes make a weird sound, then the light comes on. Then I can brake without abs, just normal brakes.

03-22-2010, 04:36 PM	#211
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	Yeah, there should be an ABS relay you can pull from the fuse panel under the hood.

03-22-2010, 05:06 PM	#212
jznomoney Drives: Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: PA Posts: 9	I found in the manual a fuse number 8 30a says abs2 and a fuse number 46 50a says abs1. Does that sound right?

03-22-2010, 05:33 PM	#213
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	You should have a relay in there that says ABS.

03-22-2010, 07:02 PM	#215
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	Yeah, pulling thee will disable the ABS but will also dissable the VSC. My echo has a relay that I can pull. I just figured the Yaris had one too.