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Yoda · 12-28-2011, 11:24 AM

Need help to pick a new engine management. Scince I am trying to get the most out of this engine stock I need to upgrade form the Aem fic. Throw some names at me

Bluevitz-rs · 12-28-2011, 11:26 AM

AEM EMS?
GReddy Ultimate?

Yoda · 12-28-2011, 01:34 PM

Also what ignition upgrades should I be considering? Just coils? I already have one step colder plugs.
Hmm not sure about the ultimate with the cost of all the things you need to get it running the way you want it. You might be up there in cost with the standalone.

Blown_xa · 12-28-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda

Also what ignition upgrades should I be considering? Just coils? I already have one step colder plugs.
Hmm not sure about the ultimate with the cost of all the things you need to get it running the way you want it. You might be up there in cost with the standalone.

Don't worry about ignition, the factory packs are good past 30psi of boost. I use Haltec Sprint 500, factory wiring harness. Just made a patch (plug and play) harness.

Yoda · 12-28-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Blown_xa

Don't worry about ignition, the factory packs are good past 30psi of boost. I use Haltec Sprint 500, factory wiring harness. Just made a patch (plug and play) harness.

hmm let me look into this some. It looks interesting

Blown_xa · 12-28-2011, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda

hmm let me look into this some. It looks interesting

it is a good price for a standalone, but just remember this ..... it takes a lot more tuning to have a good running car. I think the FIC is fine for your purposes , unless you want to raise rev limit.

Focus_Sh1ft · 12-28-2011, 02:06 PM

http://shop.microimageonline.com/All...-1NZX1-100.htm

If I was building my Yaris, this is the management I would choose - without a doubt. IT UTILIZES ALL OF THE STOCK WIRING/SENSORS. Just having a harness made for standalone management is probably over 1K in labor alone.

Yoda · 12-28-2011, 02:50 PM

that might be nice but who am i gonna get to tune that beast?

Bluevitz-rs · 12-28-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda

that might be nice but who am i gonna get to tune that beast?

The Tacoma crowd use is it quite a bit if you google it... so I'm sure you could ask someone. Otherwise you might only need a good A/F gauge and tune it yourself.

Focus_Sh1ft · 12-28-2011, 02:54 PM

I would imagine anyone that knows a decent amount about engine tuning should be able to pick up on using the software pretty quickly. Realize that most engine managements do the same thing - manage the engine lol. The biggest difference is always going to be how it's implemented.

Don't quote me on that though.

Scubaru Steve · 12-29-2011, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Blown_xa

Don't worry about ignition, the factory packs are good past 30psi of boost. I use Haltec Sprint 500, factory wiring harness. Just made a patch (plug and play) harness.

+1, haltech makes amazing electronics
http://www.haltech.com/index.php/pro...num-sprint-500

Bluevitz-rs · 12-29-2011, 12:36 AM

^ but it still doesn't do VVTi right?

Blown_xa · 12-29-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

^ but it still doesn't do VVTi right?

Platnum sport 1000 does. Factory ecu controls vvti on mine (Sprint 500), use to have Camcon assist... but removed it along with turbo timer. Im the type of person who likes to minimise the number of electronic devices in my car. VVTI honestly isnt worth the time spent tuning IMO. You would be looking at a couple more hours of tune time, for a few whp under the boost curve (max power won't change).

Parmas · 01-02-2012, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Blown_xa

Platnum sport 1000 does. Factory ecu controls vvti on mine (Sprint 500), use to have Camcon assist... but removed it along with turbo timer. Im the type of person who likes to minimise the number of electronic devices in my car. VVTI honestly isnt worth the time spent tuning IMO. You would be looking at a couple more hours of tune time, for a few whp under the boost curve (max power won't change).

Yeah the Haltech Platinum sport 1000 is currently my ecu and is great in efficiency tuning so far. I cannot understand how the factory ecu is controlling the vvti when it needs certain controls that now are connected to your Sprint 500 ?

I have to disagree with Blown_xa about VVti. I got about 20 torque and 25 bhp till 5000rpm with as far as 30Degrees Advance till 5psi boost. VVTi was tuned within an hour so it was surely worth the time spent tuning !

The Haltech ecu can handle idle control (make it a point that not all standalone ecus handle it so check out the specs first). Attached is my idle control page on ecu.

Blown_xa · 01-02-2012, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Parmas

Yeah the Haltech Platinum sport 1000 is currently my ecu and is great in efficiency tuning so far. I cannot understand how the factory ecu is controlling the vvti when it needs certain controls that now are connected to your Sprint 500 ?

I have to disagree with Blown_xa about VVti. I got about 20 torque and 25 bhp till 5000rpm with as far as 30Degrees Advance till 5psi boost. VVTi was tuned within an hour so it was surely worth the time spent tuning !

The Haltech ecu can handle idle control (make it a point that not all standalone ecus handle it so check out the specs first). Attached is my idle control page on ecu.

The factory ecu still sees everything and controls the vvti actuator just like factory, this is because of the way mine is wired. The halted sprint 500 doesn't control vvti, so that is how it should be wired. However, with the sport 1000 in your case.... It is wired up and can control vvti. It is no surprise you got gains, but that is because you started at a static vvti state ( you started with zero advance).

Parmas · 01-03-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Blown_xa

The factory ecu still sees everything and controls the vvti actuator just like factory, this is because of the way mine is wired. The halted sprint 500 doesn't control vvti, so that is how it should be wired. However, with the sport 1000 in your case.... It is wired up and can control vvti. It is no surprise you got gains, but that is because you started at a static vvti state ( you started with zero advance).

And I thought the Sprint series were better than the Sport Series!

Bluevitz-rs · 12-29-2011, 08:13 PM

Yeah vvti is more for N/A on this motor.

Yoda · 12-30-2011, 10:10 AM

Ok i will take your advice. Need to fix my idle problem first. There is a popping sound and the afr dips to 17s every time it does it. Tried scanning it and it showed no misfires so it may just be hitting lean spots. Think there maybe a small leak some where that i need to hunt down. Then gonna get another compression test and a proper retune.

Considering water meth too.

12-30-2011, 10:10 AM	#18
Yoda Drives: 2008 Black Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: FL Posts: 966	Ok i will take your advice. Need to fix my idle problem first. There is a popping sound and the afr dips to 17s every time it does it. Tried scanning it and it showed no misfires so it may just be hitting lean spots. Think there maybe a small leak some where that i need to hunt down. Then gonna get another compression test and a proper retune. Considering water meth too. Last edited by Yoda; 12-30-2011 at 10:21 AM.

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12-28-2011, 11:24 AM	#1
Yoda Drives: 2008 Black Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: FL Posts: 966	Need help to pick a new engine management. Scince I am trying to get the most out of this engine stock I need to upgrade form the Aem fic. Throw some names at me

12-28-2011, 11:26 AM	#2
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	AEM EMS? GReddy Ultimate?

12-28-2011, 01:34 PM	#3
Yoda Drives: 2008 Black Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: FL Posts: 966	Also what ignition upgrades should I be considering? Just coils? I already have one step colder plugs. Hmm not sure about the ultimate with the cost of all the things you need to get it running the way you want it. You might be up there in cost with the standalone.

12-28-2011, 02:06 PM	#7
Focus_Sh1ft Drives: 08 Yaris Turbo; 06 tC Turbo Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 875	http://shop.microimageonline.com/All...-1NZX1-100.htm If I was building my Yaris, this is the management I would choose - without a doubt. IT UTILIZES ALL OF THE STOCK WIRING/SENSORS. Just having a harness made for standalone management is probably over 1K in labor alone.

12-28-2011, 02:50 PM	#8
Yoda Drives: 2008 Black Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: FL Posts: 966	that might be nice but who am i gonna get to tune that beast?

12-28-2011, 02:54 PM	#10
Focus_Sh1ft Drives: 08 Yaris Turbo; 06 tC Turbo Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 875	I would imagine anyone that knows a decent amount about engine tuning should be able to pick up on using the software pretty quickly. Realize that most engine managements do the same thing - manage the engine lol. The biggest difference is always going to be how it's implemented. Don't quote me on that though.

12-29-2011, 12:36 AM	#12
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	^ but it still doesn't do VVTi right?

12-29-2011, 08:13 PM	#17
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	Yeah vvti is more for N/A on this motor.