ABS and "!" lights are ON again!

[Dave]

If you're comfortable poking around under the car, cleaning the crap out of the sensor can help too. Or you could take it to a garage you trust and ask a mechanic to clean the sensor for you. It may be worth a try to save all the money.

I cleaned mine at the end of December and I haven't seen the lights on since (knock on wood).

[yaris2010RS]

just to clarify, is the problem with the sensor itself or is it the connector?

[Dave]

I thought the problem was that a gap in the weather seal around the connector would allow the salt spray from the road to get into the spot where the wire harness connects to the hub. This impedes the electrical signals and causes the warning lights/ABS failure. That's why cleaning the gunk out and then protecting the gap with dielectric grease can help, if the salt hasn't already corroded any of the actual parts.

Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong.

[bcolwill]

I have a 2007 Yaris which I purchased from my mother-in-law in December 2009 with only 3500 KM on it. Not long after I had the same problem as many here. Brake lights on and disabled ABS when driving in salt & slush. I was able to obtain the code pointing to a rear speed sensor. This past summer I purchased some dielectric grease at CDN Tire, removed the connectors at the rear wheels, filled the stationary end full of the grease and plugged them back in. Since I have done that I have yet to see the problem appear again.

[spann1]

My 2007 Yaris has 41,000km (my kids drive it between University and Home) and I have had zero problems with this vehicle up until last week when I brought it in for the twice yearly oil change.The very next day the ABS light came on!

I googled and found this site and after reading all the Yaris ABS issues with sensors I went back to my local Toyota dealer and had the car hooked to the computer for $59.88+ tax, and Toyota reported the following:

cause: retrieved codes C0210 and C0215 speed sensor malfunctions.

correction: requires both rear speed sensors. $827.00 + tax.

I told the service advisor, I should not be responsible to pay this amount for a known technical fault especially since there is a Toyota Technical Service Bulletin from June 27th 2008 and secondly was not very happy that as a Yaris Owner was not even advised that there was a problem with the ABS sensors.

The Service Advisor agreed to contact Toyota Canada for a possible "Good Will Jesture" on the repair costs.

Toyota Canada agreed to pay 60% of estimated costs, my local Toyota dealer said since I serviced the vehicle always at the dealer, the low mileage & age of vehicle, they would also kick in 20% so I am left paying 20% for the fix.

Not exactly satisfied that this is free but I am happy to have this resolved
for $165.40 versus $827.00!

The car is being repaired in next few days.

Thanks to all the Yaris owners who made this information known.

Other than the ABS sensor this is a very reliable car, the best I have ever owned.

P.S. The car will still brake without the ABS just will not have the ABS function, some owners I read would not drive the car until fixed, I found that really funny.

[bqsantos]

Hello:
Just before snowmaggedon here in T.O. I tried the DIY fix as recommended in the thread.

I removed the tire to get to the connector, but I could not get the cover off. I'm not sure if I had my screw driver in the proper spot to remove the cover.

Does anyone have any pics/video of what things will look like after you get the cover off. Trying to figure out how the cover opens.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks...

[dwrf6]

Wow, glad to find this board.
I've got a 2007 Yaris 32 000km.
I had the brakes fixed in '09, dealer in Toronto covered it, with a list of clever question for me.
Had 14 000km at the time.
Year later, same issue, insufficient use of the vehicle caused the brakes to need repair again.
Full kit, pads, rotors(rusted and pitted too bad) and whatever else. 20 000km
I had to pay this time $750.

Well a good morning to me, started the car to the two board lights show up.
Not on when parked day prior.
"ABS" and "EMERG Brake", I personally prefer no ABS, obviously not working now.
Thanks for the info SPANN1 on the dealer visit.

What's my options? Can I use it without causing anymore issues?
Will the dealer find out that I disregarded the issue and then try to turn it on me.
Is this still covered under warranty?
Thanks

[005]

Hi ,

I got the same problem with my 07 Yaris. It happened to me last year and this year again. I am expecting to see this problem every winter. First Canadian insurance company is not covered because tech found the water in harness. Yes you will. I am driving in the snow.


Yaris is not good for snowy drive. Toyota shouldn't sell the yaris in some province in Canada. AB, SK, MB, OT and QC.

If they want to, they should make it water proof or something for sensor and harness.

I believe Toyota Canada should take responsibility for this. We Canadians are less protected by Consumer Law. We don't have Lemon law and we never complaint like Lexus in states.

I will see what I can do about it. I will spread this message through all of my social network, face book, tweeter and so on. My trust on Toyota is eventually going down.

Mr. Toyota your name is on my car you should be taking care of this.

From Canada

[N9QGS]

I started having this problem for the first time this winter at 160K mi. and I appreciate the forum here to allow me to get it looked at, I am hoping its just limited to the harness and not both, but I am having an independent shop look at it right now for free, they said they would have to get the parts from toyota and there would probably be no difference in cost. But they will see if its anything they can clean up and put a temp fix in the meantime. I have a sedan 2007

[devinlamothe]

lol, I've been driving with the lights on for over a year now ... I can't for the life of me notice a difference with ABS on or off.

I just hope this isn't an insurance issue - when I have time this summer I will take the tires off and clean the sensors, but no way am I paying $800+ to get them fixed at the dealer.

[Gman]

Reading all these post all the way from 2008 has made me sick to my stomach, especially since there has been no recall after all this time. I also have the same problem, with the warning lights going on and off all winter. I can be driving and they will go on, and then 15min later as I continue to drive they go off. Two times this winter, I have also experienced my Yaris not slowing down at all when breaking on snow, even though it sounded like the abs was working, and both times I came extremely close to smashing into the car in front of me. This has lead me to not trust my brakes at all in slippery conditions.

I am hoping it will get warm enough this week-end so I can try the cleaning idea. Thanks to all who have posted in this thread with advice.

[Bluevitz-rs]

Originally Posted by Gman

Reading all these post all the way from 2008 has made me sick to my stomach, especially since there has been no recall after all this time. I also have the same problem, with the warning lights going on and off all winter. I can be driving and they will go on, and then 15min later as I continue to drive they go off. Two times this winter, I have also experienced my Yaris not slowing down at all when breaking on snow, even though it sounded like the abs was working, and both times I came extremely close to smashing into the car in front of me. This has lead me to not trust my brakes at all in slippery conditions.

I am hoping it will get warm enough this week-end so I can try the cleaning idea. Thanks to all who have posted in this thread with advice.

Sorry, but this problem with the wheel speed sensors will have no effect on you brakes not working. So if you're that concerned about the safety of your vehicle, why haven't you taken it to the dealer?

[Gman]

My brakes not working correctly happened while the two lights were "off". When the light are "on" I have no ABS, and like some others have said, I actually would prefer not to have ABS in the winter, and only have it when the pavement is not slippery.

As for why I have not gone to Toyota, I am not interested in paying close to $90 just to have them plug the car into a computer, and simply put, do not have the cash to pay that much money to just find out what is wrong and not actually make any repairs.

[Gman]

Originally Posted by bqsantos

Hello:
Just before snowmaggedon here in T.O. I tried the DIY fix as recommended in the thread.

I removed the tire to get to the connector, but I could not get the cover off. I'm not sure if I had my screw driver in the proper spot to remove the cover.

Does anyone have any pics/video of what things will look like after you get the cover off. Trying to figure out how the cover opens.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks...

Just want to bump this post as I am looking for the same info. I took the tire off today and had a look, but was not sure where to put my screwdriver to pop off the cap. Since its -10C today I did mess with it to much in fear of breaking it. Any help would be appreciated.

[spann1]

As previously noted my 2007 Toyota Yaris (out of warranty)ABS brake were finally repaired a few weeks ago. Still working fine!
The total was $52.00 for the computer scan and this you need to do so Toyota dealer can advise you of the fault, as well as estimate costs. Then ask the dealer for a good will gesture and they should have a response back to you within a day. My total to replace the two rear sensors was $142.00 including tax for parts and labour. Toyota Canada picked up 60% and local Toyota Dealer picked up 20%. Good Luck to all the Yaris owners going after the ABS fix, this should be a free recall, we all know this; but at least Toyota picked up 80% for me !

[Gman]

You wouldn't happen to have a letter from Toyota Canada indicating they would pay 60% you could send me would you??

My dealer wanted $76 to plug it into the computer.

[yaris2010RS]

if ur car is out of warranty just follow the tips listed above and clear computer code urself.

[Gman]

Originally Posted by yaris2010RS

if ur car is out of warranty just follow the tips listed above and clear computer code urself.

Well if I can get 80% paid like spann, I would rather do that. I am assuming that they replaced the sensor and harness with the newer and improved connection that has come out.