ABS and "!" lights are ON again! - Page 18 - Toyota Yaris Forums

jit · 08-20-2011, 09:39 AM

i did an abs at dixie toyota for 1000 cad right in the thick of a january snow - they changed wire and the calipers or so i think - sometimes when it rains i also have an engine check - surely toyota canada does not not give a damn of canadian weather for our 20000plus money - toyota was the best, now falling way behind ford, hyundai et al.
They need take responsibilities of their mess over n over, Toyota Engineering My Ft!

derickveliz2 · 10-13-2011, 01:36 AM

TOYOTA please take notice!

This is why my lights (ABS + BREAK) turn on! (I'm guessing)

I did solder them directly and cover with a Sealant. We'll see how much they hold on!

D.

firemachine69 · 10-13-2011, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by onizuka

Yes, ABS and handbrake lights are on. Meaning that your ABS is inactive.

Been there, done that last year. Speed sensor is defective. If I'm getting the same problem again due to cold/snowy weather, this proves that the car is poorly handling our Canadian winter.

Momentarily had this a few months ago. I suspected the VSS, couldn't prove it. Handbrake definitely was not dragging, my car free-rolled without issue.

Just another nail in the coffin proving my theory that the Yaris is the furthest thing ever from the reliable Echo...

derickveliz2:

I was under the impression the hub had to be removed to access these wires. Yay or nay?

Bluevitz-rs · 10-13-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by firemachine69

I was under the impression the hub had to be removed to access these wires. Yay or nay?

No they don't. I did someone's brakes on their Yaris and cleaned and packed the connectors as preventative maintenance.

You need a small screwdriver or something to help get the clip off if I'm not mistaken. It was a while ago now.

derickveliz2 · 10-14-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by firemachine69

derickveliz2:

I was under the impression the hub had to be removed to access these wires. Yay or nay?

Yes and No... It helps to fix them if you remove the hub, but 1 side had 2 wires broken all ready like you see in the pictures above, the other side only one wire was broken. I did remove them both. no access to the wires from the inside of the hubs, it's where the wires go into the hub. I hope I didn't confuse you?

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Originally Posted by Bluevitz-rs

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You need a small screwdriver or something to help get the clip off if I'm not mistaken.

You need to squish the little tongue on the lower part of the hub.

"NO MORE LIGHTS FOR ME!!! and I spend nothing but my time. Lets see when they will turn on again!

D.

Dave · 11-06-2011, 05:46 PM

Just a friendly reminder to check on your sensors if you're changing over to your winter tires in the next three weeks or so. I know I'll be giving them their annual cleaning and application of dielectric grease.

It's a lot easier to clean them now, before the temperature gets into the negative double-digits!

Delfire · 12-02-2011, 05:27 PM

I just want to say, that whichever the problematics with sensors, specially ones around wheels, underbody, try lubing them with dielectric grease, or grease, whatever. Cause no matter how many times you change em, water, ice, salt snow.. aint helping.. and seems Toyota made a big bobo with Yarises or othr model sensorabilia.... up to date, i have changed, ABS sensors, Alternator Sensor, The radio ( a lil transistor thing burnt inside it) , and now im on my Camshaft sensor... Yeeee i wonder wich sensor will go next!? good thing i get parts cheap or free, and make em myself.. when its sunny... and aint raining or snowing.....

Note, before changing your ABS sensor, clean the connectors,and add dielectric greasse they should work just fine. IF pin isnt brocken from rust.

"G" · 12-02-2011, 06:46 PM

My brain is hurting after trying to read your post ^^^^^.

N9QGS · 01-01-2012, 03:23 AM

Yeah I had this problem last winter, the lights would come on and then go off a few days later, after winter it had not come back on, we still are waiting for our first snow here in Kentucky, and I feel it will start coming back on... I have 198,000 miles on my vehicle now, should be at 200,000 by end of January.

Gman · 01-02-2012, 12:50 PM

I am back after almost a year and with good news. Since following the instructions here about opening the connection and cleaning the leads and then plugging it up with dielectric grease I have not had the light come on, and I have not lost my ABS brakes.

Big thanks to those of you who posted pic's and explained this easy fix.

Sad to see Toyota not putting a recall on this since it is a very dangerous situation. A couple times I would have ABS and then poof lost it when the lights came on, pretty scary stuff when you are skidding along a highway with cars on front and behind you.

So if you have not tried this fix, TRY IT!!!! My independent garage did it for free when I had them switching my winter tires to my summer tires.

Even if you DO NOT have this situation, I would do it as a preventative measure.

"G" · 01-02-2012, 11:22 PM

Uhm your an idiot. When the light comes on you lose abs, but you do not lose any braking power.

johnny_vitz · 01-17-2012, 06:59 PM

So I FINALLY had a yaris come in with an ABS light on, ended up being corrosion at the LR connector. If anyone is wondering it's only $45cdn for a whole new harness per side to fix, that is IF the bearings terminals aren't damaged. Fairly easy to change out as well. I'm a little confused at some of the posts saying thousands of dollars being spent to fix these problems

Even both bearings and both harnesses replaced including labour wouldn't be $1000 using toyota parts, through my shop anyways...?

"G" · 01-17-2012, 07:09 PM

What if the corrosion is on the terminals hub side? Then what are you going to replace??????????????????????

johnny_vitz · 01-17-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by "G"

What if the corrosion is on the terminals hub side? Then what are you going to replace??????????????????????

lol read my post

If the terminal in the hub/bearing unit is damaged you'll have to replace it, but it still isn't terribly expensive. I would definitely agree with what several people have suggested and recommmend taking the connectors off and packing them full of grease to keep them from corroding.

The best part is, I suggested to do this on the other sides connector (RR) of the customer's yaris I was working on, and they wouldn't approve me to do it.

"G" · 01-17-2012, 09:08 PM

Exactly, replacing a hub and paying toyotas inflated part pricing is terribly expensive to yaris owners. Especially since it's a design flaw.

johnny_vitz · 01-17-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by "G"

Exactly, replacing a hub and paying toyotas inflated part pricing is terribly expensive to yaris owners. Especially since it's a design flaw.

Agreed. But every car has problems, just like our water pumps. They're still near the top of the list for reliability, and have very few expensive issues.

The pricing on these parts specifically isn't too bad, I was amazed that the harness was only $45...but that is probably because it is a common issue (they had 9 in stock).

willow1 · 01-23-2012, 02:44 PM

I don't understand how people can drive for years with their ABS light on...I was told the car wouldn't pass inspection with it on. I'm going through the same thing now as we speak..car's in at the dealer and I'm waiting to hear the verdict.

403RS · 01-24-2012, 11:50 PM

Had the lights come on last week when it was -40, but they went away as soon as it warmed up. Knock on wood that they stay off, will be inspecting the problem area closer in the springtime.

10-13-2011, 01:36 AM	#308
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	TOYOTA please take notice! This is why my lights (ABS + BREAK) turn on! (I'm guessing) I did solder them directly and cover with a Sealant. We'll see how much they hold on! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

01-01-2012, 03:23 AM	#315
N9QGS View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Toyota Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Georgetown, KY Posts: 117	Yeah I had this problem last winter, the lights would come on and then go off a few days later, after winter it had not come back on, we still are waiting for our first snow here in Kentucky, and I feel it will start coming back on... I have 198,000 miles on my vehicle now, should be at 200,000 by end of January. __________________ 198K Miles

01-17-2012, 06:59 PM	#318
johnny_vitz Drives: 2005 Toyota Echo Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 259	So I FINALLY had a yaris come in with an ABS light on, ended up being corrosion at the LR connector. If anyone is wondering it's only $45cdn for a whole new harness per side to fix, that is IF the bearings terminals aren't damaged. Fairly easy to change out as well. I'm a little confused at some of the posts saying thousands of dollars being spent to fix these problems Even both bearings and both harnesses replaced including labour wouldn't be $1000 using toyota parts, through my shop anyways...? __________________ 05' Echo Hatch - Greddy Supercharger - rear disc

08-20-2011, 09:39 AM	#307
jit I've made a post! Drives: yaris sedan 2008 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: ontario Posts: 1	i did an abs at dixie toyota for 1000 cad right in the thick of a january snow - they changed wire and the calipers or so i think - sometimes when it rains i also have an engine check - surely toyota canada does not not give a damn of canadian weather for our 20000plus money - toyota was the best, now falling way behind ford, hyundai et al. They need take responsibilities of their mess over n over, Toyota Engineering My Ft!

11-06-2011, 05:46 PM	#312
Dave Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 100	Just a friendly reminder to check on your sensors if you're changing over to your winter tires in the next three weeks or so. I know I'll be giving them their annual cleaning and application of dielectric grease. It's a lot easier to clean them now, before the temperature gets into the negative double-digits!

12-02-2011, 05:27 PM	#313
Delfire Quebec greekster Drives: Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 5	I just want to say, that whichever the problematics with sensors, specially ones around wheels, underbody, try lubing them with dielectric grease, or grease, whatever. Cause no matter how many times you change em, water, ice, salt snow.. aint helping.. and seems Toyota made a big bobo with Yarises or othr model sensorabilia.... up to date, i have changed, ABS sensors, Alternator Sensor, The radio ( a lil transistor thing burnt inside it) , and now im on my Camshaft sensor... Yeeee i wonder wich sensor will go next!? good thing i get parts cheap or free, and make em myself.. when its sunny... and aint raining or snowing..... Note, before changing your ABS sensor, clean the connectors,and add dielectric greasse they should work just fine. IF pin isnt brocken from rust.

12-02-2011, 06:46 PM	#314
"G" Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 346	My brain is hurting after trying to read your post ^^^^^.

01-02-2012, 12:50 PM	#316
Gman Drives: 2008 yaris Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Quebec, canada Posts: 11	I am back after almost a year and with good news. Since following the instructions here about opening the connection and cleaning the leads and then plugging it up with dielectric grease I have not had the light come on, and I have not lost my ABS brakes. Big thanks to those of you who posted pic's and explained this easy fix. Sad to see Toyota not putting a recall on this since it is a very dangerous situation. A couple times I would have ABS and then poof lost it when the lights came on, pretty scary stuff when you are skidding along a highway with cars on front and behind you. So if you have not tried this fix, TRY IT!!!! My independent garage did it for free when I had them switching my winter tires to my summer tires. Even if you DO NOT have this situation, I would do it as a preventative measure.

01-02-2012, 11:22 PM	#317
"G" Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 346	Uhm your an idiot. When the light comes on you lose abs, but you do not lose any braking power.

01-17-2012, 07:09 PM	#319
"G" Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 346	What if the corrosion is on the terminals hub side? Then what are you going to replace??????????????????????

01-17-2012, 09:08 PM	#321
"G" Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 346	Exactly, replacing a hub and paying toyotas inflated part pricing is terribly expensive to yaris owners. Especially since it's a design flaw.

01-23-2012, 02:44 PM	#323
willow1 I've made a post! Drives: 2006 Yaris Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Nova Scotia Canada Posts: 1	I don't understand how people can drive for years with their ABS light on...I was told the car wouldn't pass inspection with it on. I'm going through the same thing now as we speak..car's in at the dealer and I'm waiting to hear the verdict.

01-24-2012, 11:50 PM	#324
403RS #yyc View User's Garage Drives: BSP '07 RS 5dr LB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 238	Had the lights come on last week when it was -40, but they went away as soon as it warmed up. Knock on wood that they stay off, will be inspecting the problem area closer in the springtime.