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01-18-2017, 10:50 PM | #19 |
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I really like the look/stance of certain Hyundai, Kia and Volkswagen vehicles but I simply don't trust them, just like I don't trust Ford, GM, Chrysler, Fiat, BMW, etc.
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01-18-2017, 10:52 PM | #20 |
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01-19-2017, 08:10 PM | #21 |
My Yaris is a "racecar"
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I do have an Elantra! The rear suspension is defective on pretty much all of them. A specialty shop was able to fix the rear alignment and it drives world's better now. Not technically adjustable by Hyundai's specifications.
I tell you something, I will never ever buy one again. 3rd Gen yaris for life.
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01-19-2017, 08:33 PM | #22 |
both junk in the long run
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01-19-2017, 09:13 PM | #23 |
Takes corners too fast!
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as someone that has been in the mechanic field, i will never buy a KIA or Hyundai, i have had people trade them in with less than 5k miles and they where already burning oil. they never last to their 100k mark, and if you get a used one from the dealer it would only have the 30k warranty. They have progressed to be better but they have only improved their style and interiors the most their Direct injection engine is a good step forward but it still has its issues.
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01-19-2017, 09:14 PM | #24 | |
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01-19-2017, 09:18 PM | #25 |
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I hired a Hyundai I30 in mint condition. It's smooth and comfortable car perfect for a daily driving. I see why people who buy these new Hyundai's and Kia love them. I had the latest model I30, nice looking car and it's lovely to drive. Not fun but good enough. Come on Toyota fan boys you need to wake up. Hyundai and KIA are closing in on the top 3 Japanese makers. |
01-19-2017, 09:22 PM | #26 | |
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01-20-2017, 12:32 AM | #27 | |
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But driving a rental car proves nothing, as far as long term ownership goes. Rental cars are always less than 6 month old, nice and shiny, and too new to show problems. So I prefer to listen to what the professional mechanics tell me, based on the cars they service and fix every day. Sent from my LG-D801 using Tapatalk |
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01-20-2017, 12:34 AM | #28 | |
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But driving a rental car proves nothing, as far as long term ownership goes. Rental cars are always less than 6 month old, nice and shiny, and too new to show problems. So I prefer to listen to what the professional mechanics tell me, based on the cars they service and fix every day. Sent from my LG-D801 using Tapatalk |
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As someone who's owned Toyota, Honda and was recently shopping Ford and Mazda, I honestly wouldn't call myself a Toyota fanboy. If anything, I've always criticized Toyota for having a bit of yawn factor compared to others. As I said before, for me, it's more about tactile feel and drive experience. They literally feel sub-par in every way to me. Pile on what actual tech's are saying and it's not a good look. |
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01-20-2017, 11:51 AM | #30 |
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I think we have enough actual techs on this forum, plus I know a couple of master mechanics who tell me the same thing. There may be a bit of a yawn factor, but they're as reliable as hell. I only used to drive high end European cars until recently, and the whole Toyota thing came as quite an eye opener to me, as I'd always looked down on Japanese cars. Now I won't drive anything else.
One of my previous cars was a BMW Z1 roadster (look it up). The Yaris with tweaks has been the most fun to drive I've had since. So maybe not such a huge yawn factor after all. Sent from my LG-D801 using Tapatalk |
01-20-2017, 04:40 PM | #31 | |
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I'm familiar with the Z1. It may not be huge yawn factor in your experience, but when stacked up next to Honda, Nissan and Mazda, Toyota is definitely the sleepiest of the bunch. |
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01-20-2017, 05:37 PM | #32 |
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I have a 2017 Sportage SX (FWD) for review this week. I have to say, it's freaking nice—like luxury car nice. 240 hp, 260 ft/lbs of torque; pretty darn quick.
FYI, I don't own or have any loyalty to Kia, Hyundai, or any other brand. But I'll tell you what, the Sportage SX is a very nice, powerful, and comfy vehicle.
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01-20-2017, 05:49 PM | #33 |
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I guess the "yawn factor" is something I'm in search of when shopping for a car. I'm simply looking for good, reliable, transportation that only requires inexpensive routine maintenance and almost no repairs.
I'm completely satisfied with the "antiquated" 1.5L and 4-speed automatic transmission in my Yaris. I don't want/need any "tech" features whatsoever; power windows, mirrors, and locks are the extent of my "luxury" needs. For exterior design, I prefer conservative, tight, flowing lines, not some radical Yugio inspired design with curves and angles... and fake vents, etc. that make no sense whatsoever. |
01-20-2017, 07:23 PM | #34 | |
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Just saying that when it comes to performance inspired driving experience, Toyota is looking about ready for a nap lol. |
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01-20-2017, 07:38 PM | #35 |
Coincidentally and quite timely, Inside Lane posted a link to their static review of the new Kia Stinger GT on Wheelwell.com.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQD2...ature=youtu.be |
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My wife drives a Camry, and its a great comfortable and refined family car, but with zero coolness factor. The Yaris, indeed lacks sophistication, but is huge fun because of its lightweight go-kart feel. With only minor tweaks to the engine and suspension it becomes a fantastic little sports car that's simply a pleasure to drive. Who cares if it's unsophisticated. That's a lot of its attraction, in addition to its many other good points, and I'm now on my second one. Quote:
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