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02-23-2011, 02:42 PM | #19 |
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OP: I completely disagree! My Yaris is the second best car that I've owned in the snow (granted I'm a lil further south from you but we get a pretty good amount of snow in the winter) second only to my Suzuki Sidekick. I drove my sidekick in a 4 foot blizzard with no problems .... but of course that had 4 weel drive!
As far as ice is concerned No one can drive on ice not a Yaris or a Jeep (maybe a tank ) I love driving in the snow because I know and understand how to drive in the snow... and for me the Yaris has proven to be a very dependable snow car for me! Btw OP: I wasn't saying that you don't know how to drive in the snow I mean you do live in Canada! lol
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02-23-2011, 03:01 PM | #20 |
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i honestly think a lot of why it sucks in the snow is the tires...
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02-24-2011, 10:45 AM | #21 |
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maybe we should have a yaris echo meet here and compare tires...
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02-24-2011, 02:13 PM | #22 |
In winter I usually have something in the truck for the weight and always have a full tank, that being said its quite heavy so I don't fly or drift off the road. My Yaris is also lowered with 15" rim and winter wheelies "Dunlop" and no no its not the tennis ball rubber...
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02-24-2011, 05:53 PM | #23 |
I'm anxious to try out a better brand of tire next winter already. It might very well be that this particular tire absolutely sucks in our winter driving conditions. I can honestly say it's no driver error, as when you're driving in a straight line at 40-50KM/H max and the car looses control and starts to spin in circles, there isn't much that be done to prevent anything at that point. If anyone is looking to buy cheap winter tires next season, I'll have some up for sale! :)
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02-24-2011, 09:50 PM | #24 |
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i have winterforce on the yaris and blizzaks on the aveo....HUGE difference in grip and handling
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02-25-2011, 12:43 AM | #25 |
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02-25-2011, 12:44 AM | #26 |
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it would be worth the drive
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02-25-2011, 06:27 PM | #27 |
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it's getting a little late in the year to organize something other than a drive around and coffee/lunch
right now the ice is smooth enough one could do some impromptu autocross (away from the ice road and fish huts of course) of course, everyone knows that your insurance company, caa, and your spouse will have nothing to do with this |
02-25-2011, 09:24 PM | #28 |
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Funny, I went to Glen Eden today and saw the Acton sign on the off-ramp hahah
White_rice, FWIW, my WS-50's on the front are almost at the wear bars now, and they're nowhere nearly as sticky as they were before, but they still get the job done. The rears that have around half-depth left still grip fine, and I can switch lanes on a slushy/snowy highway at over 100 without much worrying. I just stay in the gas :D |
02-26-2011, 01:25 AM | #29 | |
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as for glen eden how was it? i love going boarding there, its way better and cheaper then hockly and they are about the same distance away. have u ever been to the caledon skii club? apparently conditions there are always top notch.
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03-04-2011, 08:31 PM | #30 |
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I haven't posted here in a long time but thing the Yaris is awesome in the snow.
Did 2 snow rallies in one and some ice racing (Ice X). Just needed some studded tires and the car would have been faster! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2uUY76O4OM
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03-04-2011, 08:37 PM | #31 | |
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Especially on a frozen lake! That's all ice! LOL.
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03-04-2011, 09:07 PM | #32 |
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Another little story about a stage that we were late for the start. My navigator and I were in the Yaris and following a 2011 Sti.
We both had a blast driving 9/10ths through the back snow covered roads just trying to get to the next stage! At the end of it just before I started my session, he came up to me and said that was a terrific drive the little Yaris did. He said his Subie was twisting and turning and the Yaris just kept on sticking to the end of the Subie! He was impressed. Mind you, I had a bit of a handful but with the suspension redone for that rally, it did handle very well. My setup was fairly sitff in the front (for the Yumps and bumps) and the rear had the swaybar (aftermarket) taken out and the rear shocks adjusted to what the stock valve dampening is for OEM, so it was much softer. The natural tendancy on tarmac for the car was to understeer and just a tap with the left foot on the brakes would help to neutralize the understeer and dig in the front wheels. Very little did I get oversteer unless I provoked the rear to come around. Brake hard in a straight line before the turns helped as well so you weren't fishtailing it. When you slide it slows you down and your times dramatically decrease. It is more fun to do it that way, but a straighter faster line is best unless you need to scrub off speed. I've been driving on the cheapest set of snow tires I could get from Canadian Tire (Goodyear Nordics) and they work great in the soft stuff. Terrible on ice. While competitors were sliding into snow banks (mostly BMW's and Subies and minis) we never "offed" and finished every stage. A bit slow, but finished mid pack. If you are having trouble with the rear end from sliding, just remember to go slow into the corners and accellerate out. If you start to fishtail, put a little gas on the throttle and a quick correction of the steering will help, but be smooth about it. With a little throttle it will pull you out of the fish tails. Just try not to over correct it. You can see it in the video below @ 1:11 mark in our Production class Honda. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05m7ZfeHwEA
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03-05-2011, 10:26 AM | #34 |
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I have had better and worse snow cars.
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03-06-2011, 12:06 AM | #36 |
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Just drove my new yaris in its first storm with me (just got it a week ago) and while it pulled a little, the snow as about half a foot deep, it was no worse then my oldsmobile alero that preceded him. The alero was a much larger heavier car as well.
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