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07-09-2009, 09:42 PM | #19 |
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So we are back to what the actual purpose of a K&N drop-in filter is for. To save money by not having to buy replacement filters every 3000 miles which for me is 1 month. Air filter at my local dealer is $20 so that would cost me $240 a year just for air filters. The K&N was $40 and never needs to be replaced. Paid for it self in 2 months. If I keep the car for 5 years thats a savings of $1160 and I have 2 Yaris's so that would be $2320!!!
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07-09-2009, 09:44 PM | #20 | |
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Whoa, why in the world would you change paper air filters every 3000 miles? They are good for four or five times that many miles. Unless you drive in EXTREMELY dusty conditions. Tom |
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07-09-2009, 09:52 PM | #21 |
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the maintenance schedule for the yaris is suggested at every 30k miles, I believe; however my rule of thumb for my used cars was 10k or 6k for dusty areas; the K&n is nice though, I've never owned one personally.
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07-09-2009, 10:12 PM | #22 |
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k&n's are nice, i've had them on all my previous vehicles. haven't bought one yet for either yaris because i like to get them when i need to replace one first. they do pay for themselves after a couple changes, but depending on where you live and how many miles you drive that could be a few years! where they get you is the 'recharge kits'. they are always expensive! anyone know of a cheap substitute for these kits?
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07-09-2009, 11:46 PM | #23 |
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$9.00 for the kit and they usually last me around 3-4 cleanings.
The roads around here are very dusty. We have oil wells and gas wells going up everywhere and those big trucks and salt water trucks are always tracking out dirt from the lease road onto the highway. We have also have not got any rain in over 2 months so they are even more dirty than normal. Plus the 32 mile road that I take to work everyday has been under construction for 2+ years and there is a constant white sand/dust from the white rock they are using that stays on the road. Last edited by b_hickman11; 07-10-2009 at 12:05 AM. |
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You must think they're wonderful, a lot of people do, that's why they've sold so many and have such a good following. I'd imagine that they've got about 5% of the market (could be closer to 2-3% ??), but for one reason or another about 95% choose to buy Wix, OEM, Fram, etc, instead. Oh well. Quote:
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BTW: LMAO, and to deflate the desperate little reaching again...I've got a K&N filter on the shelf for a Honda customer that's coming in next week...want to know what claims are on the box, in order which they appear?...it's a DROP-IN "Designed to increase horsepower & acceleration" "Washable/reusable/lifetime product" Wooops |
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I already said I was the one having to reach since you didn't tell us any information on the car. It have been a 2009 model with 100 miles on it or it could have been a 2000 model with 500,000 miles on it. If it was an older car with more miles on it then there would be a lot more reason why his car was in that condition. If it was a new car with a K&N then your claim might have some backbone to it but since you can't remember, then your claim is useless.
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You're saying, right now, that K&N changes their box's sales pitch when it gets to the P/N for the Honda drop-in filter? I bet all their boxes look pretty much the same, where the text is concerned, whether it's a Honda, Kia, Toyota, Focus, etc.... For my '08 Yaris...right off they claim it's for performance, just like that Honda :) http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=33-2360 Don't know where you're getting your info.
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While undoubtedly true, I wouldn't put too much weight on the percentages you're using, as most people simply don't change their own oil.
To apply a little common sense, if they're not changing their own oil, they're not changing their air filter either. And the people changing it for them aren't going to suggest switching to K&N filters because the time involved with cleaning them would be counter productive. It's just about money with a consumable like that in this throwaway society. What do they charge you for that, 15$ a filter? And what does that filter cost them, $7? It's all part of the profit margin for the company changing the oil/air filter, not that I have anything against their profit margin. My point is that those percentages are probably a bit off because the largest percentage of buyers of air filters are service shops. Myself, I'm going to use a K&N filter for the Yaris as I already use one for the Harley. I've already got the oil for the filters, so it's just one less thing I have to buy when I perform my vehicle maintenance. |
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My 3% might be high? The % of DYIs can't be that much by comparision, and most probably don't get a K&N, probably get a Fram, Wix, etc...
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