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01-22-2011, 08:24 PM | #19 |
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I agree, the interior is more inspiring. And I heard the power is the same or similar to the Cruze. So the power to weight ratio should be great considering it weighs less or I assume than the Cruze. So we'll see when it comes out.
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01-26-2011, 09:05 PM | #20 |
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this car is butt ugly...sorry but i had much higher hopes for the new yaris
the angle of the c-pillar is the worst i think it's going to have a tough time considering the competition this car has now in north america from the ford fiesta, mazda 2, and the usual sub-compacts was this car designed in japan? |
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01-26-2011, 11:33 PM | #22 |
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i've seen a few mazda 2's on the road and i think it's a far, far better looking car than this new yaris...of course have yet to see the yaris in person but i can't see that changing anything for me.
toyota really had to knock on out of the park to stay in the subcompact game (the category they used to own)...this is going to be an utter failure judging by the looks, it's going to have to be amazing on gas and have great road manners for it to even have a chance against a really competitive segment |
01-27-2011, 07:42 AM | #23 |
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toyota will sell plenty of these IF the mileage numbers are good enough.
the mazda 2, at 33 mpg, was a big disappointment. 40 mpg should now be the minimum for a car of this size. if the new yaris isnt there, i will not buy one. |
01-27-2011, 08:01 AM | #24 |
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Especially when its platform cousin, the Fiesta, gets 40mpg and is bigger and more powerful. The Mazda 2 is now the smallest car outside of the Smart and iQ. It should have been an mpg leader.
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01-27-2011, 04:31 PM | #25 | |
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I can't see it myself!! a step backwards!!
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Looks like a matrix? More premium features more $$$.
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They share the same platform, abiet modified, but I think that's where it ends. The rest is Mazda exclusive. So the engine, transmission etc. Like I mentioned above, gearing is a big reason the mpg is not where you would think it would be. Its decent mpg but if you put fun driving above that, the the 2 is right for you.
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01-28-2011, 07:31 AM | #27 |
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Too many odd angles and flattened panels... I like the interior, but only because it doesn't seem quite as plastic and cheap, and has nice looking analog gauges (which might change when it comes to the US). The middle gauges don't make or break the car, as far as I'm concerned. I rather like the change, if only to not put off so many possible buyers. However I think they are going to put off more buyers with the exterior styling changes, then they will gain with the interior changes.
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01-28-2011, 09:08 AM | #28 |
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It looks like they sawed the tail off a Prius, then stretched it out again. I hate the grill shape (too "V"ed) and the whole package leaves me cold.
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01-28-2011, 11:19 AM | #29 |
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no center console.??
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01-28-2011, 08:01 PM | #30 |
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I'll hold off on "hero or zero" till I actually get to see the thing in the flesh.....
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01-29-2011, 02:43 AM | #31 |
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just in terms of looks i find it a little bit higher quality looking than our car, but ugly nonetheless, and I am a huge fan of the center mount console, so I am disappointed with the new one. So far, aside from the drivetrain which is yet undisclosed for usdm, the only thing i like about the car is the rs's new chunky, perforated leather wheel. And if it is only available in 5 door, that is a deal breaker for me LOL
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01-29-2011, 02:47 AM | #32 |
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OOH also, i spy with my little eye, the potential for the same rear suspension geometry adjustment that we currently have on pic 6.
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01-29-2011, 11:51 AM | #33 |
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I'm with those who don't like it, it looks like Toyota took the current Yaris and tacked on the Matrix front and rear ends to it. And I for one prefer the center console instruments, I have yet to own a car where I can see them completely when they are behind the steering wheel.
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01-29-2011, 12:33 PM | #34 |
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i like the regular gas gauge i hate the digi gauge in the previous versions
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01-29-2011, 03:09 PM | #35 |
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for me the 12 has lost the individuality of design which attracted me to my 09 hatch
that individuality is what sold me on the Yaris originally- the 12 just looks like a mixture of all the current B class competitors which makes it a tough sell I think because being a Japanese built model the cost structure in Japan makes it awfully difficult for them to compete with a Mexican Fiesta and Versa or a Korean Accent or Sonic. So right from the get go Toyota can't compete feature to feature. So what's left? Individuality of design? - gone, mpg - doubtful based on other non hybrid Toyotas sold in the US unless they go with their stop-start, smaller engined gasoline model but I just don't see Toyota moving that way since it would further increase their cost structure on the Yaris, reliablity - yes but Toyota as a whole has seen that tarnished. Toyota could have brought in their diesel, stayed with a Euro design theme which does set our cars apart right now but by playing it safe they give one no other reason to buy the Yaris but initial price which really hasn't helped them too much up to now against their higher priced competitors like the Fit and Versa. the necesscity to compete on price also kills Toyota's and the dealer's margins on the Yaris which is why so many dealers try to "upsell" potential Yaris buyers into a Corolla. Toyota doesn't make enough on the Yaris to use it's marketing muscle on the model so after an initial "bump" with the new model I hate to say it but I predict the Yaris will continue to bring up the rear in B class US sales numbers. the paradox is going for safe (middle of the road) can be unsafe- it's better to forge an identity. you want fun to drive - you have a Mazda 2, you want refinement - there's Fiesta, you want utility and versatility- there's Fit, you want a bit more room and comfort- there's Versa, you want value- there is Sonic and Accent. What exactly is the selling point with the new Yaris? Last edited by Lewis; 01-29-2011 at 03:49 PM. |
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well put Lewis...if stop/start is standard and doesn't come with a big price tag it might have the edge with fuel economy/green car identity
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