Plastic soup the size of the US found in the Pacific - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

darthbauer · 11-12-2008, 01:17 PM

Could you imagine falling into this crap?

Shroomster · 11-12-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Who cares if the pic is BS? Maybe the pic was taken from a lake to represent the idea of the patch. When you go to a business web site and they use a stock photo of some random dude in a suit, do you call BS?

I love you guys and all, but seriously, just shut up and nod your head and say "yeah, that is disgusting" instead of trying to repudiate the obvious.

hey come on charles I never once said the problem was bs don't get upset.

MadMax · 11-12-2008, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Who cares if the pic is BS? Maybe the pic was taken from a lake to represent the idea of the patch. When you go to a business web site and they use a stock photo of some random dude in a suit, do you call BS?

I love you guys and all, but seriously, just shut up and nod your head and say "yeah, that is disgusting" instead of trying to repudiate the obvious.

I care, because it is an obvious case of disinformation if that picture is not of the actual patch!

OK, I will back off on my claim that it is bullshit, but this article is because if it is exaggerated then it is a lie. Environmentalists are reknown for blowing these things out of proportion (take a look at the so-called Global Warning issue) and by posting a pic that isn't truthful, they are producing propaganda in an effort to get people to act in a desired fashion. It is just yet another example of the everyday use and abuse of persuasion!

I will also agree that pollution is a problem, and that in many places it has been addressed but in others, such as China, it is still out of control. But this article is trying to lead you to believe that there is an entity of plastic the size of the United States floating around in the Pacific Ocean, enough to almost be able to walk on, and that just isn't true!

I will see if my US Navy brethren at work can provide some insight as to what the patch really looks like and how big it really is! But I am pretty damn sure there isn't a patch of plastic the size of the United States that looks anything like the picture given!

M2

SailDesign · 11-12-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MadMax

I care, because it is an obvious case of disinformation if that picture is not of the actual patch!

Then I assume you also believe the war in Iraq to be bogus because there were no WMDs?
Actually, I KNOW you don't think that way, but you should if your quote above is accurate of the way you feel. Or do you just think the Greenies are overstating their case?

MadMax · 11-13-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SailDesign

Then I assume you also believe the war in Iraq to be bogus because there were no WMDs?
Actually, I KNOW you don't think that way, but you should if your quote above is accurate of the way you feel. Or do you just think the Greenies are overstating their case?

Give me a break, once again you are using false comparisons to make a point, which is the same thing this article does by including a picture that isn't of the topic! If this problem is as big as the article claims, then they should have no problem providing a picture of it. But the reality is that a real picture of it wouldn't have as much of an impact as one of some polluted river in China, so they use this one instead to draw up some emotion.

And yes, I do believe the Greenies are overstating their case yet again! Global Warming is a classic example, and they realize that to garner any media attention you have to exaggerate. I am not saying there isn't a pollution problem on the planet, but to claim that there is that amount of garbage the size of the US floating in the middle of the Pacific Ocean is not believable.

By the way, I spent 25 years of my life in uniform, and continue to serve the US military as a contractor. I work with guys who have been to and fought in Iraq, and did two trips to Afghanistan myself, as well as one to Bosnia. I also see troops who have lost their limbs to WMDs all the time at Wilford Hall and Brook Army Medical Center here in San Antonio, and I recognize their sacrifice and courage; so I don't appreciate your comparison between the war in Iraq and some exaggerated claims of plastic floating around in the Pacific! I can tell the difference between what is real, and what is made up...can you?

ChinoCharles · 11-12-2008, 01:19 PM

I'm sorry man... I'm just sayin'.

Shroomster · 11-12-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

I'm sorry man... I'm just sayin'.

it's all good last thing I need is a mod mad at me

hell I just got a jury summons today so my day has been screwed from the get-go hehe

ChinoCharles · 11-12-2008, 01:26 PM

I don't get mad. I get EVEN.

Shroomster · 11-12-2008, 01:26 PM

more importantly, has anyone on here actually heard of any efforts to clean it up?

THERE are lots of articles about the problem but not one that has a solution or idea about what to do....

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Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

I don't get mad. I get EVEN. :ninja:

lmao.....

Thirty-Nine · 11-12-2008, 02:46 PM

Yes, it's true. However, I had heard it was the size of Texas, not the size of the U.S. The coordinates for the mass are out there, and it's viewable by Google Earth.

*jclo3313* · 11-12-2008, 02:53 PM

That makes me sick. People are pigs.

Black Yaris · 11-12-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

Yes, it's true. However, I had heard it was the size of Texas, not the size of the U.S. The coordinates for the mass are out there, and it's viewable by Google Earth.

trying to find it on Google earth as well

SailDesign · 11-12-2008, 06:54 PM

Here's an article from '03

http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Oce...cificNov03.htm

And from July of this year

http://discovermagazine.com/2008/jul...s-largest-dump

Appalachian Trail 2007 · 11-12-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

Yes, it's true. However, I had heard it was the size of Texas, not the size of the U.S. The coordinates for the mass are out there, and it's viewable by Google Earth.

you can't see it from google earth, I just looked.

rstb88 · 11-13-2008, 12:25 AM

most of that stuff probably was made with chemicals pre0recycling standards, the best you could do is remove from the water and dump in a landfill. One complication would be drying it, iirc to recycle the items must be dry, alot of that stuff looks like containers. thats alot of crap to stir up to dry out. Don't imagine falling in it, imagine the animals that live in it or around it.

Doc Zaius · 11-13-2008, 01:49 AM

Wow!! I've never heard about this. This'll be one of the few things I forward to friends. Holy crap!

drummerboy2004 · 11-13-2008, 01:54 AM

I have never seen this either, and it is a very alarming wake-up call...
I myself, recycle everything I can get my hands on, never use too much water, and keep my electric usage very low.
Thanks for the info...

Matt

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11-13-2008, 12:25 AM	#15
rstb88 Drives: Silver Hatchback Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 150	most of that stuff probably was made with chemicals pre0recycling standards, the best you could do is remove from the water and dump in a landfill. One complication would be drying it, iirc to recycle the items must be dry, alot of that stuff looks like containers. thats alot of crap to stir up to dry out. Don't imagine falling in it, imagine the animals that live in it or around it. __________________ "Automatic carwashes are like Hookers........are you sure you want to use it next???? (Jer)"

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ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	I'm sorry man... I'm just sayin'.

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11-12-2008, 06:54 PM	#13
SailDesign Drives: . Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,931	Here's an article from '03 http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Oce...cificNov03.htm And from July of this year http://discovermagazine.com/2008/jul...s-largest-dump

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drummerboy2004 Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Auto Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 166	I have never seen this either, and it is a very alarming wake-up call... I myself, recycle everything I can get my hands on, never use too much water, and keep my electric usage very low. Thanks for the info... Matt __________________

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