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Old 12-18-2008, 01:08 AM   #19
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Old 12-18-2008, 01:25 AM   #20
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KYB GR-2 is suitable for Yaris right?

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Gr-2 's are only a good "upgrade" if you blow your stock struts/shocks out . Imo stock shocks are better . If you need to go with gr-2 don't pair them up with any spring lower than like tanabe nf210's or they'll blow-out in about 2 months . Bare mininum go with a set of blue's or save a get some megan or basic tein coilovers , only about 250 more than the 500 a set of blue's/tein s tech's or tanabe springs will cost you .
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Old 12-18-2008, 01:27 AM   #21
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Old 12-18-2008, 04:05 AM   #22
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Gr-2 's are only a good "upgrade" if you blow your stock struts/shocks out . Imo stock shocks are better . If you need to go with gr-2 don't pair them up with any spring lower than like tanabe nf210's or they'll blow-out in about 2 months . Bare mininum go with a set of blue's or save a get some megan or basic tein coilovers , only about 250 more than the 500 a set of blue's/tein s tech's or tanabe springs will cost you .

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Well, what about Tokiko shocks? It's can be match with lower spring, right?

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Old 12-18-2008, 10:16 AM   #23
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Well, what about Tokiko shocks? It's can be match with lower spring, right?

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Yeah Tokico blues are the best for the price . I 've ran blues on 3 differnt car's i've owned all with at least -2 lowerd springs and never blew a strut out . Good performance strut and pretty "firm" feeling over stock.
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:37 PM   #24
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Yeah Tokico blues are the best for the price . I 've ran blues on 3 differnt car's i've owned all with at least -2 lowerd springs and never blew a strut out . Good performance strut and pretty "firm" feeling over stock.
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Well, Tokico will a bit/much stiffen than original shock?

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Old 12-19-2008, 08:25 AM   #25
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Old 12-19-2008, 10:26 AM   #27
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Sorry, I actually do not know which KYB model has the same specs as the TRD's. But I would assume the GR-2's.

On that note, I had GR-2's on my GTI with some Megan lowering springs. It was a pretty smooth ride. Not as stiff as my Yaris' ride (probably due to the S.Techs).
KYB GR-2 shocks will have the same body as TRD's however the "valving spec" will differ as the GR-2's are an OEM replacement (smooth ride) while the TRD version have much firmer valve spec's and provide a performance ride.
If you want a ride similar to stock damping go with GR-2. The TRD shocks will rattle your fillings loose in comparison. Much firmer with resultant incredable handling when teamed with TRD springs and swaybar.
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Old 12-19-2008, 12:15 PM   #28
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KYB GR-2 shocks will have the same body as TRD's however the "valving spec" will differ as the GR-2's are an OEM replacement (smooth ride) while the TRD version have much firmer valve spec's and provide a performance ride.
If you want a ride similar to stock damping go with GR-2. The TRD shocks will rattle your fillings loose in comparison. Much firmer with resultant incredable handling when teamed with TRD springs and swaybar.

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Well, blacksandiegovitz said that GR-2 will blow out if I put it with lower spring. GR-2 can use with lower spring?

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Old 12-19-2008, 12:46 PM   #29
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Ok, in plain english:

I have stock shock(dead)
TRD Sportivo Springs.

I do NOT want a harsh ride anymore. So Im assuming that by going with anything other then a stock shock will make things MUCH worse then they were when I first started this setup.

If thats the case, does anyone recommend getting NF210's and a firmer shock?

Or is it a bad thing to combine softer springs with firmer shocks?

Someone please enlighten me because I do not want to lose the drop the TRD springs gave me, but the ride is just getting on my nerves. Or maybe new firmer shocks will improve the ride then what it is now? (My tires bouce on the road at times, I feel it, and it slides even with dry pavement over little bumps, its bad!!!) I guess its time for new shocks, but I dont know what to do!!!!!!!! I live in NYC and I drive a lot, and every block has some tie of bump within a 20mile radius. lol
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:58 AM   #30
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Well, I think i will go with Tokico Hp Series. It's suitable for lower spring, isn't it?
Thank a lot for all recommends.
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Old 12-21-2008, 03:35 AM   #31
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KYB GR-2 shocks will have the same body as TRD's however the "valving spec" will differ as the GR-2's are an OEM replacement (smooth ride) while the TRD version have much firmer valve spec's and provide a performance ride.
If you want a ride similar to stock damping go with GR-2. The TRD shocks will rattle your fillings loose in comparison. Much firmer with resultant incredable handling when teamed with TRD springs and swaybar.
They don't feel that much more dampened (enough to rattle things off of the dash or anything, unlike my friend's Toaster).
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Old 12-21-2008, 11:59 AM   #32
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Well, I think i will go with Tokico Hp Series. It's suitable for lower spring, isn't it?
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Yes. The car will be a little firmer, but a lot more stable. It will ride fine, but stiffer than the stock shocks.

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Old 12-21-2008, 12:12 PM   #33
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Ok there is a lot of misinformation here.

Tokico HP (blues) and the TRD KYBs are NOT the same. Tokico does NOT make the Sportivo TRD dampers.

I have rode in cars with both setups, and they ride similarly. Both are designed to be used with stiffer springs, which is why they are valved stiffer. I would not call either setup "harsh" or "too stiff". The damping will be a good match to the spring rates of quality lowering springs. The car will feel more sure footed through turns, more stable in the wind, and over bumps, and will rub tires less over bumps.

You will feel more bumps in the road. It is just the price you pay for increased handling. If this means anything, my girlfriend could not really tell the difference in ride from the stock dampers to the Tokico Blues. If you guys have ridden in EVOs, STIs, 350Zs etc, the car will ride BETTER than those types of cars with TRDs or Tokico HP (blues) and lowering springs. If you think that the TRDs rattle your fillings out or are unliveably stiff you should probably should trade you Yaris in on an Avalon. Unless you are on dirt roads in a 3rd world country, it just isn't that bad. If you want to save some money, get the Tokico Blues. They are over $100 cheaper than the TRD pieces and do the exact same thing.

KYB GR2s are good stock replacements. They are usually just very slightly stiffer than the stock dampning. You probably won't even notice the difference. These DO NOT blow out in 2 months, they are just as good as what came on the car. If you want factory replacements and a decent price, GR2s are what you want to get.
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:39 PM   #34
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Well, what's about compare between Tokico Hp series and Trd Sportivo, which one is more better, stiff, stable, and smooth.
As I need, I need stable and not much stiff. I don't like when the car sway after run over the brige.
My friend told me that Trd Sportiva is smooth and stable (but price is too high for me).
Then, which one would you recommend me? and sorry that asking you guy a lot because I have on idea about which shock is the one i want.
Thank a lot
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:41 PM   #35
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Old 12-21-2008, 10:42 PM   #36
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Well, what's about compare between Tokico Hp series and Trd Sportivo, which one is more better, stiff, stable, and smooth.
As I need, I need stable and not much stiff. I don't like when the car sway after run over the brige.
My friend told me that Trd Sportiva is smooth and stable (but price is too high for me).
Then, which one would you recommend me? and sorry that asking you guy a lot because I have on idea about which shock is the one i want.
Thank a lot
They both feel nearly identical. Just get the Tokicos then if the TRDs are too much. From a performance and feel perspective, there is no reason to spend the extra money for the TRDs.
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