rods and pistons available - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

cali yaris · 04-27-2009, 09:20 AM

I haven't heard anyone (at least on here) who has actually done that yet. So Jouna's data may be the first we see on this.

at3GG · 04-27-2009, 09:52 AM

What needs to be done to the pistons fro ma Prius to make them work with our motor? Anything? I really know nothing about internals....I know higher compression=more power with NA applications but thats the extent of my knowledge. I assume it wouldnt be a straight up swap ie: 1. pull out 1nz piston 2. "drop in" Prius piston 3. Drive away happy. Is this anywhere near a reasonable goal for a budget minded modder?

jouna · 04-27-2009, 01:02 PM

bitchin rods....and yes. prius pistons... open engine take out factory pistons and put in the prius pistons with prius bearings and its done over here they sell by 85 a piston and the bearings 125 the set.
tamago
in the prius engine the thing that gives the compression is the pistons not the cycle. the cycle is for energy efficiency only but the engine is the same so pistons will fit that easy with prius pistons installed you'll have a 10 to 15 bhp gain. not so much? well you add that with proper tuning, headers, pulleys all the goodies and you got yourself a pocket rocket. when we put pistons like this we use premium gasoline 92 octane and with tuning it's all good no back fires

taKuto · 04-27-2009, 01:18 PM

since you mention tuning, you'd need a piggyback to run those pistons or can you get away with the stock ecu ?

at3GG · 04-27-2009, 01:40 PM

Seriously? I guess I'm sorry for asking a question. This is a discussion forum...you apparently know the answer so why would i google it? Kind of takes away from the whole forum idea doesn't it. Dont really care to know the answer anymore, good luck to whoever tries any of this out.

Tamago · 04-27-2009, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by at3GG

Seriously? I guess I'm sorry for asking a question. This is a discussion forum...you apparently know the answer so why would i google it? Kind of takes away from the whole forum idea doesn't it. Dont really care to know the answer anymore, good luck to whoever tries any of this out.

guess how i learned about atkinson cycle engines... ;) think it was on a forum?

Quote:

Originally Posted by www.wikipedia.com

The 1NZ-FXE is the earliest 1.5 L (1496 cm³) version built in Japan. Bore is 75 mm and stroke is 84.7 mm. It features forged steel connecting rods and an aluminum intake manifold. The engine has a high physical compression ratio of 13.0:1, but the inlet valve closing is retarded. The net result is that the engine has a greater effective expansion than compression – making it Atkinson cycle, rather than the conventional Otto cycle.

so, just because it has a physical compression ratio of 13:1 it does not mean that the pistons/rods are subjected to typical 13:1 compression forces. in fact, the prius only revs to 5000rpm, so you'd want to take into account these factors.

it's not a 'SLAP IN SOME PISTONS AND RODS FROM A PRIUS YO!' solution.

Russelt3hPirate · 04-27-2009, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

guess how i learned about atkinson cycle engines... ;) think it was on a forum?

so, just because it has a physical compression ratio of 13:1 it does not mean that the pistons/rods are subjected to typical 13:1 compression forces. in fact, the prius only revs to 5000rpm, so you'd want to take into account these factors.

it's not a 'SLAP IN SOME PISTONS AND RODS FROM A PRIUS YO!' solution.

you're a dick, all you had to say was it didn't work. we don't need proof we just need someone with lots of posts to say it's a bad idea. why would we want to go to multiple reputable sources on the internet when we have a forum full of people who know everything?

Tamago · 04-27-2009, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russelt3hPirate

you're a dick, all you had to say was it didn't work. we don't need proof we just need someone with lots of posts to say it's a bad idea. why would we want to go to multiple reputable sources on the internet when we have a forum full of people who know everything?

that's probably why i keep getting banned.

i don't have to take this abuse from you, i 5.4times more posts than you

Russelt3hPirate · 04-27-2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

that's probably why i keep getting banned.

i don't have to take this abuse from you, i 5.4times more posts than you

you keep getting banned b/c you've never offered up any real helpful info and you don't even own a Yaris.

the xA engine bay <> the Yaris engine bay, who cares if you've proven that a well thought out turbo can fit in both with minor modifications.

before you start bad mouthing people you should really do some research, the toyota rods aren't terrible, not like you've ever broken one....

cali yaris · 04-27-2009, 02:40 PM

Quote:

I have paid $859 for Pauter Rods

I didn't.

at3GG, I don't know the difference either.

BLAZINBLUEVITZ · 04-27-2009, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

at3GG, I don't know the difference either.

coming from a prius owner thats a shame.....

Giupo · 04-27-2009, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

I didn't.

You are Fortunate

at3GG · 04-27-2009, 02:41 PM

oh well, at lest im not alone lol so what gains could be reasonably expected from higher comp pistons?

ChinoCharles · 04-27-2009, 04:18 PM

Dude, I think my VTEC just kicked in.

How much are Pauter rods? Don't give me that can't tell you crap either.

Non-vendor pricing of course, Garm.

hatchbackkid82 · 04-27-2009, 04:31 PM

this is getting good

hatchbackkid82 · 04-27-2009, 04:33 PM

CRIPPLE FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

ChinoCharles · 04-27-2009, 04:51 PM

Let me know Tamago. I need me some.

Russelt3hPirate · 04-27-2009, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Let me know Tamago. I need me some.

yes yes you do.

that and Rods/pistons. :D

you ever find out cost of parts to build the 1nz?

it's pretty stupid expensive for what you get out of it. :(

04-27-2009, 09:20 AM	#1
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,857	I haven't heard anyone (at least on here) who has actually done that yet. So Jouna's data may be the first we see on this. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

04-27-2009, 09:52 AM	#2
at3GG Drives: 07 metmet LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: VA Beach Posts: 648	What needs to be done to the pistons fro ma Prius to make them work with our motor? Anything? I really know nothing about internals....I know higher compression=more power with NA applications but thats the extent of my knowledge. I assume it wouldnt be a straight up swap ie: 1. pull out 1nz piston 2. "drop in" Prius piston 3. Drive away happy. Is this anywhere near a reasonable goal for a budget minded modder? __________________ F5 CAI, MR axleback, MR Header, NST SSK. Full Exhaust wrap, AT3 Custom SSK Konig Heliums 15x6.5 Black Tanabe Df210's

04-27-2009, 01:18 PM	#4
taKuto rice rocket Drives: 05 Echo Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 163	since you mention tuning, you'd need a piggyback to run those pistons or can you get away with the stock ecu ? __________________

04-27-2009, 01:40 PM	#5
at3GG Drives: 07 metmet LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: VA Beach Posts: 648	Seriously? I guess I'm sorry for asking a question. This is a discussion forum...you apparently know the answer so why would i google it? Kind of takes away from the whole forum idea doesn't it. Dont really care to know the answer anymore, good luck to whoever tries any of this out. __________________ F5 CAI, MR axleback, MR Header, NST SSK. Full Exhaust wrap, AT3 Custom SSK Konig Heliums 15x6.5 Black Tanabe Df210's

04-27-2009, 02:41 PM	#13
at3GG Drives: 07 metmet LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: VA Beach Posts: 648	oh well, at lest im not alone lol so what gains could be reasonably expected from higher comp pistons? __________________ F5 CAI, MR axleback, MR Header, NST SSK. Full Exhaust wrap, AT3 Custom SSK Konig Heliums 15x6.5 Black Tanabe Df210's

04-27-2009, 01:02 PM	#3
jouna Drives: jdm yaris sedan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: bayamon puerto rico Posts: 433	bitchin rods....and yes. prius pistons... open engine take out factory pistons and put in the prius pistons with prius bearings and its done over here they sell by 85 a piston and the bearings 125 the set. tamago in the prius engine the thing that gives the compression is the pistons not the cycle. the cycle is for energy efficiency only but the engine is the same so pistons will fit that easy with prius pistons installed you'll have a 10 to 15 bhp gain. not so much? well you add that with proper tuning, headers, pulleys all the goodies and you got yourself a pocket rocket. when we put pistons like this we use premium gasoline 92 octane and with tuning it's all good no back fires

04-27-2009, 04:18 PM	#14
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Dude, I think my VTEC just kicked in. How much are Pauter rods? Don't give me that can't tell you crap either. Non-vendor pricing of course, Garm.

04-27-2009, 04:31 PM	#15
hatchbackkid82 Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,828	this is getting good

04-27-2009, 04:51 PM	#17
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Let me know Tamago. I need me some.