How loud's too loud?

[Bob Dog]

I like hearing other peoples music, as long as its not loud. It adds brightness and color to my day, like birds singing, or women in bright colored clothes, or a flash car, or or a billboard or big electric sign in an urban environment, or a painted bridge or some colorful buildings. I like stimulation and interacting with the environment around me. If it doesn't interfere with my conversation or my listening to my media I'm fine with it. This of course does not include rude excess.

[talnlnky]

1)the faster the car is moving the louder you can have it...
example... nobody is going to hear your car even if its blasting at 140+ dB's if you're doing 70's on the highway with your windows up.

2) If your windows are down you gotta cut the volume by half of what you normally can get away with

3) If you're not moving, like sitting at a stop, you should lower the volume until you start moving again... Most stereos come with an Attenuation button that'll decrease the volume by like 20dB instantly... or you can just turn it down by hand.

[JBougie]

1. That guy is a nut job for saying 'you're going to get it' becuase he heard your system.

2. When you have a system (I have one myself, and always have...) you should - out of respect - turn it down/mute it at stop lights/signs, in residential areas, and any place that it might get you looked at funny.

I personally don't bump my system as I go through the hood (I head some juvenile diversion classes in some extremely sketchy areas in Minneapolis and don't feel like getting car jacked), where I live (hello car theft...) or at stop lights because the mini-van to the side of me full of children might not want to hear the colorful lyrics of Three6Mafia =o) lol

It's all about respect.

[Snyprwlf47]

Ill agree with the fact that harleys are way to loud and people make alot of noise mowing there grass, but I feel that if someone can hear it next to you with there windows rolled up its gonna more than likely cause you to suffer hearing loss and is too loud! Also if you can hear another drivers horn then you probably dont have it up to loud^-^

[The little red pill]

Originally Posted by supmet

You have control over buying an aftermarket exhaust - Is everyone here that bought an exhaust inconsiderate? Electric lawnmowers are considerably quieter than gas, and sweeping is quieter and better for the environment than using a blower. Technically a manual mower would be the quietest and least polluting - You have control there too, but you don't respect me enough, so you just use your loud ass gas mower. Children certainly have control over their volume, and its definitely a matter of respect. Don't get me started on harleys.

Please don't vilify stereos, because you choose to let them bother you more than any of the other sounds you are accosted with on a daily basis. I turn my stereo down in neighborhoods, but I'm not going out of my way to keep everyone in the world from hearing it.


In order of frequency, things I get woken up by:

1)harleys
2)kazoo exhausts on cars
3)the marching band at the high school at 6:45 AM
4)lawnmowers at 7 AM
5)loud stereos

You're entirely missing the point. Your logic as stated above is that two wrongs make a right. It's inconsiderate to play music excessively loud on one's stereo system to the point it causes other people anguish. Not to mention the damage done to the ears (i.e. when you have Tinnitus in your ears at age 50, you'll understand.)
To address your list: Responsible homeowners have a need to cut grass (they can't spend $$ on a stereo system because they have a family to support and mortgage to pay). Most places don't have laws governing exhaust noise for 2 wheeled motor vehicles. And marching band is a publicly supported and funded activity sponsored by the school district. #2, and #5 are subject to fines and other regulatory action as they are a complete nuisance.

[supmet]

Originally Posted by The little red pill

You're entirely missing the point. Your logic as stated above is that two wrongs make a right. It's inconsiderate to play music excessively loud on one's stereo system to the point it causes other people anguish. Not to mention the damage done to the ears (i.e. when you have Tinnitus in your ears at age 50, you'll understand.)
To address your list: Responsible homeowners have a need to cut grass (they can't spend $$ on a stereo system because they have a family to support and mortgage to pay). Most places don't have laws governing exhaust noise for 2 wheeled motor vehicles. And marching band is a publicly supported and funded activity sponsored by the school district. #2, and #5 are subject to fines and other regulatory action as they are a complete nuisance.

I don't blast my music. I have a fairly crappy system, but I've never experienced anguish from any system. I've sat 2 feet away from 2 13" W7s with 2000 watts, and it was exhilarating, but not painful.

As for the NEED to cut your lawn, that is a want, and an extremely selfish one at that. 1 billion people in the world don't have adequate fresh water. The US is in a water shortage. The fact that you choose to be selfish, and then wake me up on a saturday morning to trim your decoration, is no different then someone playing a stereo.

My only point is that if you can hear it, but its not hurting you, maybe you need to grow a little thicker skin. If its truly causing you pain, or impeding on your happiness, then I can see your point, but neither of those are true if you can just "hear" it.

[Justin220]

Originally Posted by Bob Dog

I like hearing other peoples music, as long as its not loud. It adds brightness and color to my day, like birds singing, or women in bright colored clothes, or a flash car, or or a billboard or big electric sign in an urban environment, or a painted bridge or some colorful buildings. I like stimulation and interacting with the environment around me. If it doesn't interfere with my conversation or my listening to my media I'm fine with it. This of course does not include rude excess.

Hi Bob, we're kinda alike! both emotional, sensitive and artistic! enjoying life is most important to me! life is short! no matter walking, driving, beatuiful ladies, fantastic sceneries are all around. And pls forgive my honeymoon period with my cute new Eonon stereo, I'll still play it loudly in highway with my windows down, feeling the breeze, fresh air, and the Hip-hop! Oh god set me free! But sure I won't lose my self-countrol in the crowded, otherwise people will throw their shoes to me, I guess not only yelling!

[The little red pill]

Originally Posted by supmet

I don't blast my music. I have a fairly crappy system, but I've never experienced anguish from any system. I've sat 2 feet away from 2 13" W7s with 2000 watts, and it was exhilarating, but not painful.

As for the NEED to cut your lawn, that is a want, and an extremely selfish one at that. 1 billion people in the world don't have adequate fresh water. The US is in a water shortage. The fact that you choose to be selfish, and then wake me up on a saturday morning to trim your decoration, is no different then someone playing a stereo.

My only point is that if you can hear it, but its not hurting you, maybe you need to grow a little thicker skin. If its truly causing you pain, or impeding on your happiness, then I can see your point, but neither of those are true if you can just "hear" it.

Wow. I never said you "blast" your system. That's why I used the pronoun "one" as in playing "one's" stereo too loud. Take it easy tiger. Talk about "thin" skin.
Also, many cities strictly enforce grass height and will in fact issue a fine if grass is too tall. I fail to see how this relates to water usage. I don't water my lawn but it seems to "magically" grow to the point where it needs to be cut. Amazing!
I think the point most of us are making is for those people that play their music well above necessary levels to hear it. It's a simple matter of respecting your fellow person.

[supmet]

Originally Posted by The little red pill

Wow. I never said you "blast" your system. That's why I used the pronoun "one" as in playing "one's" stereo too loud. Take it easy tiger. Talk about "thin" skin.

I never said you did. I said I don't blast my system as part of the next sentence where I didn't understand the "anguish" caused by another person's system, especially at a stop light. Also - I hate to burst your bubble, but not a single person has successfully actually bothered me over the internet. You and everyone else on the internet are forgotten within seconds of me finishing any given post.

Originally Posted by The little red pill

I fail to see how this relates to water usage.

Because "one" doesn't need a lawn in the first place. "One" chooses to have a lawn which needs tons of fresh water, and requires noise polluting lawn maintenance. Most cities in California, Nevada, and I'm sure other states will give you a check of up to $2000 dollars for changing to low water usage landscaping. Too bad every house of the american dreamer has to have a big green lawn with a white picket fence.

But I don't really want to impede on someone's right to mow their lawn. I'm just saying if being able to hear something that someone else is doing is a sign of disrespect and should be restricted, be fair about it and restrict all loud noises.

[detroiter]

Knowing my kind of humor, I would have probably replied back to him "If I'm gonna get it, it better be big and thick or else don't waste my time" haha.


Yeah if others can hear it, then it might be a tad too loud.

[Zaphod]

Originally Posted by supmet

I said I don't blast my system as part of the next sentence where I didn't understand the "anguish" caused by another person's system, especially at a stop light.

A harley with no muffler, but straight pipes might help you there. Loud radios doing the boom boom don't bother me anymore, when they raise it, I rev it!

I've seen the listen-to-my-window-rattling-radio reaction before, and they're never happy about it. So I'm not surprised, but a bit delighted to see that the street don't go both ways there.

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by supmet

I don't blast my music. I have a fairly crappy system, but I've never experienced anguish from any system. I've sat 2 feet away from 2 13" W7s with 2000 watts, and it was exhilarating, but not painful.

As for the NEED to cut your lawn, that is a want, and an extremely selfish one at that. 1 billion people in the world don't have adequate fresh water. The US is in a water shortage. The fact that you choose to be selfish, and then wake me up on a saturday morning to trim your decoration, is no different then someone playing a stereo.

My only point is that if you can hear it, but its not hurting you, maybe you need to grow a little thicker skin. If its truly causing you pain, or impeding on your happiness, then I can see your point, but neither of those are true if you can just "hear" it.

Ignant post of the week award above.

Dude... it doesn't matter if something YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER does or doesn't give you anguish.... its about the things that you DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER.

Example... your neighbors barking dog @ 11PM, some random wannabe thug blasting dual 12's and 1000watts with all four windows rolled down.

So... Yeah... if you put your head close enough to a W7 to get bruises you prolly won't think its annoying.

Oh.. and for the record.... most people who go around broadcasting their music have crappy stereos... even if they can get loud.


I hate loud stereos, tho I've won a dozen or so sound competitions, and have worked on half a dozen cars that won sound competitions. I love bass, but hate when I'm forced to listen to other peoples bass... I also hate loud diesel trucks, motorcycles, and fart cannon mufflers on every 16-25 year old male jerk-off's car.

I say they all should be regulated.

[Bob Dog]

There is a big difference from a little music drifting out some ones car window @ 50 watts than being assaulted by window rattling 12" subs at a couple thousand watts.

[id3379]

Just be respectful and turn your music down when your in neighbor hoods. Or roll up to stop lights with other people around. Then blast your music where ever else you go, Like a BOSS!

If that's really that big of a problem for you then you have some issues. And this is coming from a 19 year old kid.

[Justin220]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

1)the faster the car is moving the louder you can have it...
example... nobody is going to hear your car even if its blasting at 140+ dB's if you're doing 70's on the highway with your windows up.

2) If your windows are down you gotta cut the volume by half of what you normally can get away with

3) If you're not moving, like sitting at a stop, you should lower the volume until you start moving again... Most stereos come with an Attenuation button that'll decrease the volume by like 20dB instantly... or you can just turn it down by hand.

The sound has close relationshipe with speed. golden rule, good summarize, guy!

[Yaris Hilton]

Just FYI, Harleys come new with quiet exhausts. Their owners spend lots of money to make them loud.

[supmet]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

I say they all should be regulated.

My only point was that either everything or nothing should be regulated. We live in a society of loud noises - cars(engines, exhausts, horns, squealing brakes), lawnmowers, trucks, bikes, planes, trains, constructions sites, and a thousand other abusive noises. By the time it gets down to other people's music I hardly notice. I just find it funny that most people are so annoyed by something that affects maybe 10 seconds a week of their life, when so much more time is spent dealing with louder more annoying noise, most of which isn't necessary, just convenient.

[Justin220]

Originally Posted by supmet

My only point was that either everything or nothing should be regulated. We live in a society of loud noises - cars(engines, exhausts, horns, squealing brakes), lawnmowers, trucks, bikes, planes, trains, constructions sites, and a thousand other abusive noises. By the time it gets down to other people's music I hardly notice. I just find it funny that most people are so annoyed by something that affects maybe 10 seconds a week of their life, when so much more time is spent dealing with louder more annoying noise, most of which isn't necessary, just convenient.

How much I hope more people will think as you! Great minds think alike. Sometimes the frustration is caused by ourselves, our attitude, we can actually escape us from this self troubling. However, not so many people are so tolerant, so we have to promise, obey the rules, that's always the case!