16's or 17's

[spacemanoeuvres]

Originally Posted by silverRS

yeah true, those that pattern is pretty sick, kinda what im looking for.

yep, I think they'll look pretty cool.

the 16X7 weighs 17.8 lbs which isn't much heavier than the stock 15" steel wheel.

not bad for $100-105

be sure to post pics if you buy 'em

[Leenis24]

Im going with 16x7 on 205/50 tires. Im going with the Flik Ftd (matt Titanium) wheels. They would look hot on Meteorite metalic color.

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

I'LL BE going with the trd 18's and shelving the stock alloys for winter.....

[YarisHatch]

I'm really happy to see yaris owners doing their cars right. Especially with wheels, wheels aren't a huge deal to me but when its done, bigger is never better.

My hatch is supposed to come in the 18th, payments should work all i have to fear now is getting the exact insurance numbers. The estmates were good to go, but hopefully it wont change much with an actual vin. If it doesn't, say hello to a future black 5spd owner.

[SophieSleeps]

Originally Posted by why?

It depends on what you are going for. For maximum performance the bigger the wheels the better.

For looks, the same applies.

If something else, then you can go with smaller wheels.

I'm prolly going with 14s.

Yo man. I don't mean to pick on you.

But bigger isn't better for performance.

If the overall diameter of a wheel is say 20"
And you have 19" of it metal, and 1" tire...teh combination will weigh much more than one with say 15" of metal and 5" of tire.

Rotating mass kills performance.


However, you are right about thinner sidewalls being better for performance.
Having a stiff, thin sidewall makes a car much more responsive.

If I do end up getting a Yaris...I will be going with 18's.
I don't care about performance on a car with 100hp.
Why would anyone?
If I decide to play around, I will throw in some forged internals and boost it to high heaven. Screw this 140 hp stuff. That's kiddies play.

[echo_hrs]

SophieSleeps, I think you need a good foot massage...

[echo_hrs]

Originally Posted by ROCKLAND TOYOTA

I'LL BE going with the trd 18's and shelving the stock alloys for winter.....

Hey ROCKLAND, are you able to source the TRD F1 alloys for the Vitz in the 17 inch size? Toyota Canada has been parading a hatch around with a set, but have become like the CIA when it comes to getting a straight answer on how to get a set...

http://www.trdparts.jp/english/parts_wheel-tf1.html




18s would be way to harsh for my tastes...

Cheers

[SophieSleeps]

Originally Posted by echo_hrs

SophieSleeps, I think you need a good foot massage...

I think I need to find a girl with hot feet and give a good foot massage.

[why?]

Originally Posted by SophieSleeps

Yo man. I don't mean to pick on you.

But bigger isn't better for performance.

If the overall diameter of a wheel is say 20"
And you have 19" of it metal, and 1" tire...teh combination will weigh much more than one with say 15" of metal and 5" of tire.

Rotating mass kills performance.


However, you are right about thinner sidewalls being better for performance.
Having a stiff, thin sidewall makes a car much more responsive.

If I do end up getting a Yaris...I will be going with 18's.
I don't care about performance on a car with 100hp.
Why would anyone?
If I decide to play around, I will throw in some forged internals and boost it to high heaven. Screw this 140 hp stuff. That's kiddies play.

Dude, for handling, the bigger the better. For tires performance=handling.

As I said before, you really are an ass.

[SophieSleeps]

Originally Posted by why?

Dude, for handling, the bigger the better. For tires performance=handling.

As I said before, you really are an ass.

Tire size has nothing to do with rim size.
The dude's question was about wheel size, not tire size.



You can run a 305 on a 18 or a 305 on a 16. Either way, the contact patch on the tire is the same.

Width doesn't necessarily mean performance. The wider the tire, the slower you'll go but the better you will turn.

All I'm saying is that you shouldn't make a blanket statement like "bigger is always better".
How come race cars don't run big 26" wheels then?

-Ass

[SmellyTofu]

I run 16" (as in the avtar) with 195/50R16 Advan A048.. that's harsh enough on imperfect roads I drive on.

[SmellyTofu]

Originally Posted by echo_hrs

Hey ROCKLAND, are you able to source the TRD F1 alloys for the Vitz in the 17 inch size? Toyota Canada has been parading a hatch around with a set, but have become like the CIA when it comes to getting a straight answer on how to get a set...

http://www.trdparts.jp/english/parts_wheel-tf1.html




18s would be way to harsh for my tastes...

Cheers

Check the track and offset (TRD TF1 being +51) is correct for your vehicle. You will find variations between different countries and their choice of suspension setup.

[jbrand2002uk1]

well i have a dec 05 yaris and i have 16's on and they are ok to get up to 17's though you might have to roll the arches or remove the inners to make them fit other you rick the tires rubbing on the arches and any bigger than 16's and the handling will suffer.

[Jaspher]

I not sure if all Yaris are like this but the one's we have in Canada.. (which is imported from Japan) have rolled wheel arches already. If you havn't checked yours go out and have a look. This is a smart move by Toyota.

[Ron]

i am running 16" TRD wheels, 195/50/16 in the front and 205/50/16 in the rear. +47 offset, TONS of clearance space between the tire and the strut bodies. With the extra width over the stock 14" steelies/wheel covers, it looks a bit more flush with the car and not tucked at all. I'll report back once i have the car lowered, but i dont anticpate any problems whatsoever.

[Fat Felixxx]

Originally Posted by Ron

i am running 16" TRD wheels, 195/50/16 in the front and 205/50/16 in the rear. +47 offset, TONS of clearance space between the tire and the strut bodies. With the extra width over the stock 14" steelies/wheel covers, it looks a bit more flush with the car and not tucked at all. I'll report back once i have the car lowered, but i dont anticpate any problems whatsoever.

Running wider tires(or wheels or lower offset) in rear would further promote understeer in a car that is naturually prone to understeer.

Whle running a staggered look like that might look cool, it actually decreases performance. Running reverse of that (wider front wheel/tire or lower offset wheel) would make the car handle better because it would help the car handle more neutrally.

If high performance driving is not an issue, there would be no problems.

[Ron]

high performance driving is NOT an issue; i will not be driving the yaris anywhere near its limits as it is simpily a day to day commuter car (i gave up my MR2 for this purpose).

the 10mm extra width between the rears and fronts is barely noticeable visually, so theoretically i guess it looks cool. the only reason i am running staggered is because i got a great deal on a barely used pair of 195/50/16 yokohamas, and tirerack had some 205/50/16 kuhmo's stupid cheap. 4 z-rated summer tires for under $200usd all installed and mounted up :D

[TRD_Yaris]

Originally Posted by why?

Dude, for handling, the bigger the better. For tires performance=handling.

As I said before, you really are an ass.

umm..no.. tire performance is a COMBINATION of lateral/longitudal grip as well as balancing sidewall stiffness between Ride Comfort and Responsive handling. If bigger wheels = better perormance, then why do people drag race with small, lightweight wheels?! stiff sidewalls SUCK for launching...so, obviously bigger doesn't always means better performance.

Pretty much, if you choose a wheel/tire combo that weighs more than stock, you will lose performance 99% of the time. If you can go bigger and reduce weight, then more props to you, but be prepared to drop 1/4 cost of your yaris for some forged Volks, iForged, HRE, etc.
Personally, i'll spend $95 each for 15x6.5 Falken Hanabis (11.13 pounds) w/ Falken Ziex 512 tires for $41 each... mounted/balanced/shipped from EDGERACING.com for less about $600...
hehe...i remember having 18" staggered wheels on my GS300..people thought it was lame that i didn't have 20s until they saw my timeslips or looked under the hood (2JZGTTE swap from JDM AE94 Supra).
If you feel it more important to look sporty than to be sporty, then that's your choice. but, please don't go around saying that bigger wheels = ALL AROUND better performance, because you are 99% wrong.

Lemme guess, very few of you actually circuit/club race and do your own tuning/modification?....thought so. going from Cast to Forged 15" wheels on my SCCA civic freed up 3whp (at 2600rpm) to 7+whp @ redline...
and for you that don't know the difference between cast and forged, then you shouldn't be buying aftermarket wheels to begin with


oh, and btw..going with much wider tires than stock will also hurt your gas mileage and cause your vehicle to pull to the side more when going over uneven surfaces (either from different roughness or topography). just be prepared to struggle more, and watch those potholes...hahaha