If you don't do this please drink some Drain-O

[SilverBack]

Since everyone on the road does the opposite, we might as well just play the reverse psych game. Fast cars to the right, slower ones to the left. Should fix that

[Kal-El]

Even "unmarked" state cops aren't necessarily unrecognizable as cops. There are clear signs when they are fairly close. The cars have to have police lights in the windows which are usually quite visible. Then of course there's the extra antennae. And many times the plain car will still have the ramming steel bumper on the front.

[PhotoDu.de]

Originally Posted by Kal-El

Even "unmarked" state cops aren't necessarily unrecognizable as cops. There are clear signs when they are fairly close. The cars have to have police lights in the windows which are usually quite visible. Then of course there's the extra antennae. And many times the plain car will still have the ramming steel bumper on the front.

Also cop plates.

[auxmike]

Black Charger,limo tint, small lights on the edges of the windshield you just CAN'T see!
Scary @ss looking car....

[47_MasoN_47]

Originally Posted by auxmike

Black Charger,limo tint, small lights on the edges of the windshield you just CAN'T see!
Scary @ss looking car....

That's the same way the ones in AL look. They look identical to those FIB cars in GTA4. The FPD does have a tweaked out Mustang and a couple of other cars though that look normal other than performance modifications and shiny wheels. They can and will pull you over. Also, I know for a fact that unmarked cars have pulled people over in NM and gave them tickets. Several of my friends live over at the Air Force base there.

[slothman86]

Pretty much the speed limit is a joke and is enforced when it wants to be enforced. I don't care if everyone is going faster than the speed limit, they should all get tickets including me. ITS CALLED A LIMIT NOT A SUGGESTION. The limit to fill a gallon jug is 1 gallon THATS IT you can' go any higher! THATS WHY ITS THE LIMIT!

I hate when police officers go over the speed limit with out running code on the highway. WTF? They are not gods. It is just as dangerous as a civilian doing it!

Oh please use your turn signal, It lets people know when you are turning so they can get ready to stop or react to you. Especially on a city street!

Stay at a constant speed on the highway/freeway, If you are going to go 70 mph (speed limit) go 70, NOT 70 than 55 than 65 than 72 than 75 than 60.

This one will never happen... When at a stop light and the light turns green theoretically everyone can start going forward at the same time. I'm just saying it would be nice not waiting a few minutes behind a green light...In theory.

[swidd]

Exactly. I'm an asshole, because I do the speed limit in the left lane.

[yarrr]

Originally Posted by PK198105

LEFT LANE IS FOR PASSING THE PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT SIDE THAT ARE CRUISING (GOING THE SPEED LIMIT) DO YOU NEED ANOTHER PICTURE TO ILLUSTRATE?

wow all caps, you're wrong. the speed limit is a SPEED LIMIT(or do you need more signs on the side of the road to illustrate)

A cop can give you a ticket for going 56 in a 55, so your whole chart is retarded.

[yarrr]

Originally Posted by PK198105

wow you again , you just full of yourself aren't you You jsut know everything wow, Im impressed. No cop in their right mind will give you a ticket if you accelerate a bit to pass a slower car and go back to your lane.

yes, and every cop in the world is in their right mind, and if there ever was a cop having a bad day or struggling to meet quotas(which don't exist) the judge would just throw your case out because your such an amazing driver.

I'd like to know how many of all the people in this discussion actually have a background in law enforcement and know how to efficiently and effectively get their info. If you are only using google and wikipedia you are perpetuating your own cycle of ignorance , to quote some kid on the internet.

I also wonder why I see so many police officers driving the speed limit in the "passing lane"

edit: and yes I'm "so fulll of myself" that I have to type in all caps to prove how much better my point is than the previous poster is, and insult their intelligence at the same time... oh wait

[yarrr]

Originally Posted by PK198105

AND the police officer will speed up if he/she sees that the flow of traffic on his right is the same speed as him, thats just common sense.

lol

A cop will break the speed limit, its just common sense.

/out

[PhotoDu.de]

Originally Posted by yarrr

wow all caps, you're wrong. the speed limit is a SPEED LIMIT(or do you need more signs on the side of the road to illustrate)

A cop can give you a ticket for going 56 in a 55, so your whole chart is retarded.

Just because you are going the speed limit doesn't mean you should block the passing lane. If people want to speed let them, it's not your problem. Let them pass so they don't have to repeatedly change lanes making the situation even more dangerous. Don't make it worse.

[yarrr]

Originally Posted by PhotoDu.de

Just because you are going the speed limit doesn't mean you should block the passing lane. If people want to speed let them, it's not your problem. Let them pass so they don't have to repeatedly change lanes making the situation even more dangerous. Don't make it worse.

I agree with you for the most part, and I do get out of the way of speeders most of the time but here is the problem. If I'm driving 65 on the freeway in the fast lane, the maximum speed allowed, how am I blocking anyone from passing? I can't believe the general tone of this topic vilifying a person for getting in the way of someone breaking the law. This isn't the autobahn, you don't have a right to drive 80, and there is no law that requires anybody to get out of your way if you choose to break the law. Hit somebody that was "in the passing lane" driving 65 while the middle was going the same and see what your insurance says.

And if the freeway is already starting to get congested, I'm doing 65 in #1, #2 is putting at 55-60, I refuse to further congest the right lanes AND slow myself down, just to let someone speed up to the bumper of the person that was in front of me.

The first thing I do if traffic is building up and the fast lane gets down below 40 is get in the fast lane and put 200 feet between me and the next person. Within 1 minute the 5 closest cars around me all begin to do the same thing as they realize I am braking and accelerating about 5% as much as them, and staying within 50 feet. The moment of sanity will spread both forwards and backwards through traffic.

[krolos]

No Gram's

[kustom play]

Originally Posted by yarrr

I agree with you for the most part, and I do get out of the way of speeders most of the time but here is the problem. If I'm driving 65 on the freeway in the fast lane, the maximum speed allowed, how am I blocking anyone from passing? I can't believe the general tone of this topic vilifying a person for getting in the way of someone breaking the law. This isn't the autobahn, you don't have a right to drive 80, and there is no law that requires anybody to get out of your way if you choose to break the law. Hit somebody that was "in the passing lane" driving 65 while the middle was going the same and see what your insurance says.

And if the freeway is already starting to get congested, I'm doing 65 in #1, #2 is putting at 55-60, I refuse to further congest the right lanes AND slow myself down, just to let someone speed up to the bumper of the person that was in front of me.

The first thing I do if traffic is building up and the fast lane gets down below 40 is get in the fast lane and put 200 feet between me and the next person. Within 1 minute the 5 closest cars around me all begin to do the same thing as they realize I am braking and accelerating about 5% as much as them, and staying within 50 feet. The moment of sanity will spread both forwards and backwards through traffic.

if there is a faster car behind you, it doesnt matter if hes going 80 or 200. You need to move out of the way. If you worried about the law being broken then make a career shift to highway patrol. i do 80 in a 65 on a regular basis and i hate having to switch lanes because people feel they are going fast enough at 65.

[Kal-El]

Reading this thread reaffirms that there is no consensus on how to freaking drive.

Those that have supported driving 65 in the passing lane...please partake of your Drano.

Proper driving etiquette means pulling to the right if anyone comes up behind you in the PASSING lane. Does NOT matter what speed you're going. If you're going 90 mph in the left lane and someone else wants to pass, move over unless middle lane traffic does not permit it. Plain and simple. It's not your job to police the road by going no faster than the speed limit and blocking others.

As for why cops speed while not in pursuit or emergency situations? It's quite simple. They need to constantly overcome new traffic to find lawbreakers. If they paced everyone at 65, they'd be wasting their time because they'd stay with the same group of cars that wouldn't dare pass him. What would that accomplish other than traffic congestion behind him? By going the usual 80-85 cruising speed they do, it allows them to catch up to unsuspecting speeders. They are in fact trained at high speed driving and have enhanced cars that perform well at speeds. It's not the same danger as some careless punk weaving traffic.

Maybe we need to send about half of America to Germany for some driving lessons.

[JBougie]

Per the Minnesota drivers manual:

http://www.dps.state.mn.us/dvs/DLTra...lassDFinal.pdf

Passing
Improper passing causes many crashes. Use extra caution when passing
at night, when visibility is poor, and when the road is slippery.
In locations where passing is permitted on two-lane roads with traffic
moving in both directions, you may pass on the left side of vehicles
ahead of you. You should not exceed the speed limit to complete a pass.
However, the speed limit on two-lane highways with a posted speed limit
of 55 mph or higher is increased by 10 mph when the driver is lawfully
passing another vehicle in the same direction. When you are preparing
to pass, you must make sure there is a safe distance between your vehicle
and oncoming traffic. You must also look behind you to determine
whether other drivers are preparing to pass you. When another driver
is trying to pass you, stay in your own lane and do not increase speed.
Use your left turn signal before moving into the left lane to pass.
Use your right turn signal after passing and before returning to the
right lane. Return to the right lane when you can see the entire vehicle
you have just passed in your rearview mirror. When passing another
vehicle, you must return to the right side of the road before coming
within 100 feet of an oncoming vehicle.
Do not attempt to pass another vehicle in locations where a “No
Passing Zone” sign is posted or where there is a solid yellow line on
your side of the center line. Double solid yellow lines mean passing
is not allowed by vehicles traveling in either direction.
Do not pass:
• On a curve or hill where you cannot clearly see the road ahead
for at least 700 feet.
• Within 100 feet of an intersection, underpass, tunnel, or railroad
crossing.
• When you are about to meet a vehicle coming toward you from
the opposite direction.

That pretty much tells me that slow people are supposed to stay the f*ck out of the far left lane.

EVEN IF 'you shouldn't be speeding anyway' - well, that's not your job to tell us what to do. Stay the hell out of our way, and stop thinking it's funny to be an a-hole by keeping your slow asses in the far left lane.

[frownonfun]

Originally Posted by JBougie

EVEN IF 'you shouldn't be speeding anyway' - well, that's not your job to tell us what to do. Stay the hell out of our way, and stop thinking it's funny to be an a-hole by keeping your slow asses in the far left lane.

Yeah and they pretty much teach you in driver's ed that it's just plain safer for everyone to just move the heck over. Law enforcement doesn't need extra help in slowing down speeders. (actually if you really do wanna be mr. road safety move over and report the speeder) so to agree with everyone else that has some common sense in this thread get the hell out of the left lane after you pass. Supposedly they have a law prohibiting cruising in the left lane here in texas but i've never seen it enforced.

but for those of you who just can't help but camp out in the left lane that's cool... i'll go just short of literally bumping you out of the way cause i really don't give a fuck about either of our safety if you don't have the courtesy to just ease on over to the right lane.

[JumpmanYaris]

Originally Posted by JBougie

You should not exceed the speed limit to complete a pass.
However, the speed limit on two-lane highways with a posted speed limit
of 55 mph or higher is increased by 10 mph when the driver is lawfully
passing another vehicle in the same direction. When you are preparing
to pass, you must make sure there is a safe distance between your vehicle
and oncoming traffic. You must also look behind you to determine
whether other drivers are preparing to pass you. When another driver
is trying to pass you, stay in your own lane and do not increase speed.
Use your left turn signal before moving into the left lane to pass.
Use your right turn signal after passing and before returning to the
right lane. Return to the right lane when you can see the entire vehicle
you have just passed in your rearview mirror..

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