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02-27-2007, 06:46 PM | #19 |
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If possible, I'd recommend trying to get an angled tweeter mount (like the one pictured below) and experimenting a little before going to all that work..
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02-27-2007, 06:58 PM | #20 |
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The first problem with the tweeters in the arm rest panel...or anywhere in the door panel for that matter is time alignment. Your left ear is MUCH closer to the left tweeter than the right one.
The second problem with the tweeters (depending on the specific behavior of the tweeter) is that the tweeters mounted on the armrest are not facing each other...or facing inwards to promote a proper stereo soundstage. This does depend of the axis response of the driver...still, you'll notice a much weaker response with this setup versus a frontal a-pillar install with the drivers 1 or 2 degrees off center starting to aim outwards towards the hood. Not knowing what specific tweeter we're working with, I'm only speaking generally AND about the Legatia tweeters from Hybrid Audio...and Focal's TN-51 tweeter. A better stereo image and sounstage will happen if you have these tweets mounted in a kickpod or low in the a-pillar. IMHO
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02-28-2007, 12:07 AM | #21 |
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If the sound is for you, the only speaker behind your head should be the sub.
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02-28-2007, 12:58 AM | #22 | |
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I'm not 100% sure how they are mounted as the guys at the workshop took care of it. It's certainly not perfect, but it's a clean look and sounds just fine.
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02-28-2007, 04:06 AM | #23 |
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Looks a neat install from the pic eTiMaGo - what speakers are you running?
From that pic it seems there's not much of a cavity behind the A-pillar judging by the way they've built it out - I haven't pulled it apart the check yet, but definately interesting to note down, cheers! Would look nice and stealthy if the tweeter grilles were painted the same light gray.. Bugger, all this talk of audio is making me want to accelerate my plans, but if I do go ahead with it now, it'll put a dent in our Songkran (Thai New Year) holidays :( |
02-28-2007, 04:15 AM | #24 |
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NM - just fired up my lazy clicking finger and checked your garage.. Boston S series, nice!
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02-28-2007, 04:26 AM | #25 | |
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Songkran... much better to stay in and mod than get out and get drenched And it's madness up in Chiangmai, I went there once many years ago... fun!
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02-28-2007, 04:41 AM | #26 | |
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Yeah, Songkran in Chiangmai is 9 days of sheer madness*! I "played" Songkran for 3 of my first 5 years here, but now we just go visit the Mrs' home town instead, where it's a little more sedated.. No probs dealing with the yocals, as the drinking there starts at 4AM, so they're all hammered by midday LOL. * Chiangmai's Songkran celebrations are in the Guiness book of records as the world's largest water fight, and beleive me they ain't kidding! |
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02-28-2007, 05:01 AM | #27 |
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Alright, just pulled apart the A-pillars - by my estimation there's approx. 15-20mm of mounting depth to be had, but the wiring will take up a few mm on it's own of course..
I haven't got the SPX-177R's yet, so have no idea what the depth on the recess cups is - does anyone know? |
02-28-2007, 05:40 AM | #28 |
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Fine, fine, I'll go rip out my A pillars later too Just yank them out, right? I am quite curious now as to how they did it...
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02-28-2007, 06:04 AM | #29 |
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Yeah - just peel off the rubber strip around the door frame (in the vicinity of the A pillar panel), and ease the A-pillar towards the center of the car - there's only a couple of pop-off clips holding it in place.
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02-28-2007, 11:43 AM | #30 |
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The only drawback of this placement in our vehicles is if you have SRS airbags in those pillars. Can you imagine a tweeter killing someone because it was mounted in the a pillar and got launched at an occupant during a crash?
Kickpod in that instance is probably the most applicable location. I know you're going to have fun if you have a manual transmission.
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02-28-2007, 03:49 PM | #31 |
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Etimago, that looks really nice. What's not perfect about it?
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02-28-2007, 05:05 PM | #32 | |
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Good point! If you look at the pics I took, you can see the flat area where the tweeter could mount is a little rebated/offset from the exploding dash panel. If you could get a flush mounted tweeter using the stock A-pillar I don't think you'd have a problem. |
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02-28-2007, 05:24 PM | #33 |
I think I'm in over my head when it comes to PROPERLY locating and adjusting the tweeters. Im pretty much set on the Alpine type X comps and the Type R coax's in the rear.
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02-28-2007, 07:45 PM | #34 |
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Don't let all the information get to you. If everything else fails, go to the "Standard" kickpod fallback.
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02-28-2007, 09:06 PM | #35 |
Well thats the thing. I want the info to get to me. I have learned tons over the years by asking tons of questions and listening to all the opinions given. Basically, I want to be well educated when it comes time for me to install my front speakers. Rears will be easy since they will be coax, as will the sub since I have decent knowledge about those.
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03-01-2007, 12:15 AM | #36 |
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Etimago, that is **really** clean looking. I also like your cellphone holder.
OP, I thought of another idea for mounting tweeters of a component set. Put the woofers in the usual place in the doors. Make some kind of bracket that crosses the woofer to hold the tweeter, out of wood or metal. The inside of the door panel speaker grill might need to be trimmed. If you've seen the door panel off the car, you'll know what I mean. |
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