First car Yaris L 2012 ....

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by Absolutely Red 12

What dealer?

I have AC too. Even a factory tach, which surprised me!!

I spent 3 months on and off trying to find a 5MT, the factory would trickle them in. In the end, I called Toyota Corporate, here in LA, and asked what dealers had 3dr L with 5MT, they thought it was too much to ask, so I demanded a stock inventory of every dealer in SoCal, or I would buy my 3rd Nissan product in 2 years!!!
They were shocked, but complied.

It was easier to negotiate on a 5MT than an AT, I bought this one over the phone. Many dealers insulted me over emails, and phone.
I stopped negotiating in person 12 years ago.

Lastly, I took a picture of the car in front of the South Bay Toyota sign, and emailed all their respective general managers cc'ing the conversation I had with their salespersons.

^^^^^This. Let the insults fly! All it takes is one yes. I've done this on previous cars. I didn't on my Yaris because I was on a trip and some of the roads in Newfoundland were the death knell for the steering rack on my Suzuki (and I had depreciated its value to zero in the Blue Book)...and at the time there was a paucity of 5 speed Yari in the Northeast (and probably in other areas as well). Had I been home, I would have taken (close to ) the stance you did.

The tactics I used when I bought my GTI were similarly hardcore. I posted the process here and someone replied that I was being unethical . It is a business transaction. The dealer isn't forced to take any deal.

[Absolutely Red 12]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

The tactics I used when I bought my GTI were similarly hardcore. I posted the process here and someone replied that I was being unethical . It is a business transaction. The dealer isn't forced to take any deal.

If a dealer takes your offer, no matter how ridiculous it sounds, a profit is made.

There is nothing unethical trying to negotiate the lowest deal.
The price on the sticker means Manufacturers SUGGESTED Retail Price.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by Absolutely Red 12

If a dealer takes your offer, no matter how ridiculous it sounds, a profit is made.

There is nothing unethical trying to negotiate the lowest deal.
The price on the sticker means Manufacturers SUGGESTED Retail Price.

EXACTLY, as consumers can get a ballpark figure -- but not the true numbers -- re what the 'holdbacks' are from the manufacturer.