Yaris WRC

[ilikerice]

Ok, if I am right, don't reply... If I am wrong, then reply "no"

There is going to be a 4th gen yaris released to the States around 2017, give or take a year or 2.

[xnamerxx]

I'm just waiting for the day when the Yaris is powered by a 1ZR in the states...which will probably be never.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by ilikerice

Ok, if I am right, don't reply... If I am wrong, then reply "no"

There is going to be a 4th gen yaris released to the States around 2017, give or take a year or 2.

I am completely confused by your statement and still don't know what you are talking about.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Just to get this back on track, a shot of the car testing.

[Jason@SportsCar]

http://www.racer.com/rally/345-lates...iting-on-rules

[xnamerxx]

Too bad Toyota won't build anything that exciting for the states.

[ilikerice]

It may one day.. but it will be as big as the matrix by then and weigh about 2800 lbs..

[xnamerxx]

I'm not so sure, Toyota has been moving away from that kind of engine development, and moving towards hybrid drivetrains for their smaller gas vehicles, and leasing diesel drivetrains from other oems for their international diesel cars.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say in 10 years unless Toyota radically changes itself its newer engine options are either going to be hybrid or eol gas engines.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by xnamerxx

I'm not so sure, Toyota has been moving away from that kind of engine development, and moving towards hybrid drivetrains for their smaller gas vehicles, and leasing diesel drivetrains from other oems for their international diesel cars.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say in 10 years unless Toyota radically changes itself its newer engine options are either going to be hybrid or eol gas engines.

Diesel seems like a long shot, at least here in the States. Most of the people there that I have talked to realize (outside of the freaks that think you need a crew cab dully diesel to tow 500lbs, and misguide tree-huggers) understand the break even point for a diesel is beyond the period of time most people keep cars - in most cases its worse than the break even on a hybrid.

Outside of more hybrids, the inevitable direct injection and Valvematic, I doubt there will be much change.

[xnamerxx]

By diesel I mean sub 2.5l passenger car engines for Europe, where the diesel prices are more favorable than here. Trucks are a different conversation, since the US is a bit unique in that aspect.

I believe currently Toyota uses BMW and AVM for their current engines, but are going to be switching to Mazda pretty soon at least for the sub 2l category. It completely makes sense to me as to why Toyota doesn't develop diesel engines, since only 1 market uses them and they can get a much better return on their investment by using hybrid drivetrains.

But I your likely correct, DI and valvematic engines will probably start popping up soon along with newer hybrid engines for the more popular vehicles.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by xnamerxx

By diesel I mean sub 2.5l passenger car engines for Europe, where the diesel prices are more favorable than here. Trucks are a different conversation, since the US is a bit unique in that aspect.

I believe currently Toyota uses BMW and AVM for their current engines, but are going to be switching to Mazda pretty soon at least for the sub 2l category. It completely makes sense to me as to why Toyota doesn't develop diesel engines, since only 1 market uses them and they can get a much better return on their investment by using hybrid drivetrains.

But I your likely correct, DI and valvematic engines will probably start popping up soon along with newer hybrid engines for the more popular vehicles.

Waiting for my Hybrid Tundra. Loving the 2014, but city mpg with 4wd hurts.

[xnamerxx]

I think the issue of that Toyota doesn't have any Atkinson cycle larger displacement engines, and using an electric assist motor would require them to lease less efficient technology from another mfg. That and I don't think the existing CVT transmissions are durable enough. I'm sure they've been working on something though.

[why?]

hopefully we can eventually get some goodies because of it. I remember the Celica rally car, awesome stuff.

[kou]

http://www.rallyemotion.it/8899_wrc-...ota-yaris-wrc/

[why?]

if Akio Toyoda really believes they need to bring back the sports car, they will. The 86 is a good start, and this car they are making with BMW could also be awesome. It is a start in the correct direction.

[SKurj]

and its gone... oops nvm 1st link is not working anyways +)

[ilikerice]

Some of the latest shots that were posted on their facebook page.

enjoy!

[ilikerice]

More pictures, and more to come