Gas Is Cheap: What Will Happen To Economy Cars?

[Flammable]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

IMO, this is one of the reasons Florida is worse than Texas. From what I've seen in Texas, usually if a driver goes at least 10MPH over the limit in one of the two right lanes on the freeway, they won't get tailgated, rather than the truth (as I've witnessed it) as you describe in Florida



. Same thing in Texas, except in my experience, the turn is usually right rather than left . Often people will do this when their right turn is a block or less than a block away . It is as if the only reason they do it is to show you that they think you weren't going fast enough . What a waste of gas and brake pad or shoe surface! Somewhere among my YW posts I describe two different situations where I avoided any accident at all...in either case an accident would likely have been fatal. One was on I-75 South (South of Bradenton, but before Naples), and the other was on Highway 17 that sort of parallels I-75 and goes between 'just south of I-4' and Fort Myers.



I imagine this must be the case, or else there wouldn't be so many drivers who feel free to do what they do.

Wow hwy 17 is where I had my first auto accident back in 1980 when I was 17. It was between two small towns called Pomona Park and Crescent City in Putnam County. It was in my very first car and some 18 year old punk was drag racing a duly pickup in the rain going around 100 mph from what a witness said. The truck passed me but the 'Cuda behind didn't and slammed straight into the back of my 70 Duster. I rolled it about three times and needless to say it was totaled. The guy never stopped. Oh another thing I failed to mention that they do around here is pass you when a red light is like 500 feet in front of them lol. It's especially irritating when they do it on a two lane road so they have to get back in front and force you to burn your brakes as well. Sounds like we both live in stinky driving states. I also love how the local cops put all these lighted mobile signs around every so often saying stuff like "crack down on aggressive driving week" LOL

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Do you think people will start buying gas guzzlers again or have they learned their lesson (the price of gas always goes up) and will they stick with economy cars?

If demand drops......this = a boon to those who assertively seek bargains. Wouldn't it be true that new economy cars MUST be presented to the U.S. marketplace because of CAFE standards?

[Jcp123]

What the hell is wrong with this country?!

I could promote my own party of choice, but instead, how about we just vote anti-incumbent next go-around?

Token on-topic comment: I have been seeing more Mirages lately. I heard wholesale prices on them are tumbling but I am not seeing used models hitting the market yet. I had planned on replacing the Echo with a used Corolla or Camry with stick, but for the price and warrantee, I wouldn't mind a lightly used Mirage with stick. Low gas prices FTMFW!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by Jcp123

What the hell is wrong with this country?!

I could promote my own party of choice, but instead, how about we just vote anti-incumbent next go-around?

Token on-topic comment: I have been seeing more Mirages lately. I heard wholesale prices on them are tumbling but I am not seeing used models hitting the market yet. I had planned on replacing the Echo with a used Corolla or Camry with stick, but for the price and warrantee, I wouldn't mind a lightly used Mirage with stick. Low gas prices FTMFW!

When the new Mirage first came out, I went to a nearby dealer to look at one. Looked under the hood, open and shut the doors quite a few times....same with the Hatch. I propped open the hood and ran the engine a bit. My gut instinct is that it won't hold together well. IIRC, that longer than average warranty isn't bumper-to-bumper.

There are two significant issues some see re an anti incumbent political movement:

1. A fair number of people think that 'All the bums need to be thrown out...except the one who represents me....he's okay'. The problem with this is that if everyone feels that way, then few incumbents lose.

2. The big money people behind many political campaigns will just support another candidate who is similar to/will 'deliver' as the incumbent did.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by Jcp123

What the hell is wrong with this country?!

I could promote my own party of choice, but instead, how about we just vote anti-incumbent next go-around?

Token on-topic comment: I have been seeing more Mirages lately. I heard wholesale prices on them are tumbling but I am not seeing used models hitting the market yet. I had planned on replacing the Echo with a used Corolla or Camry with stick, but for the price and warrantee, I wouldn't mind a lightly used Mirage with stick. Low gas prices FTMFW!

I checked out the Mirage too, intrigued by the 1.2 liter engine. (smaller is better!) However, the quality of construction struck me as inferior to the Yaris or Fit. That's not to say it wont necessarily hold up over time, but its not encouraging.

When the scumbag lowlife salesman saw me giving the Mirage a thorough going over, he came over to talk and I saying I was just looking didn't make him go away. He proceeded to put forth that Toyota has serious quality problems and the Mitsubishi cars all run for years without problems.

THAT sent me away resolved NEVER to consider a Mirage!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

When the scumbag lowlife salesman saw me giving the Mirage a thorough going over, he came over to talk and I saying I was just looking didn't make him go away. He proceeded to put forth that Toyota has serious quality problems and the Mitsubishi cars all run for years without problems.

Same thing happened when I went to look at the new Mirage. Part of their training .

[Jcp123]

I still think the Mirage is a solid basic car. It doesn't try to be anything it isn't.

Now if only they offered crank windows.

My replacement for the Mustang is going to be manual brakes/steering/trans, no heat or ac, no carpet. If it doesn't help the car go, turn, or stop it doesn't need to be anywhere near what I'm building.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by Jcp123

Now if only they offered crank windows.

[Jcp123]

It's been getting flushed since reconstruction. Then there was the income tax, the new deal, the start of big secrecy in the 50s/Cold War, the great society...do I need to keep going?

Government builds on itself.

[Flammable]

Originally Posted by Jcp123

It's been getting flushed since reconstruction. Then there was the income tax, the new deal, the start of big secrecy in the 50s/Cold War, the great society...do I need to keep going?

Government builds on itself.

It actually goes back farther than that. There have been plans for a one world govt for centuries. It's bible prophesy coming true.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by Jcp123

It's been getting flushed since reconstruction. Then there was the income tax, the new deal, the start of big secrecy in the 50s/Cold War, the great society...do I need to keep going?

Government builds on itself.

Yep.

And throw the Federal Reserve Bank into that mix (privately owned by commercial banks...but re control, that is largely symbolic due to regulation).

[Flammable]

Thanks for the reply nook. Here is what bothers me about the terrorist 9-11 thing, there are way too many questions about the 9/11 such as how planes brought down the twin towers, build 7 of WTC fell by fire alone so they tell us which is the first time in history a modern building fell from fire alone. The British news was broadcasting about building 7 falling and in the background you could see it clearly standing. All three buildings fell at the speed of gravity and looked exactly like buildings you see being pulled by the pros when demolishing. They cleaned up the debris quick and hid it in warehouses where nobody could see it. All the cameras they have at the pentagon and all they have of that "plane" hitting there is a burry clip you can't even make out. The big thing that sticks out to me is that a bunch of guys with box cutters taking orders for a bearded man hiding in a cave across the world defeated one of the most sophisticated defensive systems in the world. I can go on and on but I think you see my point. I just am not convinced some on the inside didn't help this thing happen.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by Flammable

Thanks for the reply nook. Here is what bothers me about the terrorist 9-11 thing, there are way too many questions about the 9/11 such as how planes brought down the twin towers, build 7 of WTC fell by fire alone so they tell us which is the first time in history a modern building fell from fire alone. The British news was broadcasting about building 7 falling and in the background you could see it clearly standing. All three buildings fell at the speed of gravity and looked exactly like buildings you see being pulled by the pros when demolishing. They cleaned up the debris quick and hid it in warehouses where nobody could see it. All the cameras they have at the pentagon and all they have of that "plane" hitting there is a burry clip you can't even make out. The big thing that sticks out to me is that a bunch of guys with box cutters taking orders for a bearded man hiding in a cave across the world defeated one of the most sophisticated defensive systems in the world. I can go on and on but I think you see my point. I just am not convinced some on the inside didn't help this thing happen.

Yeah, 'Architects for 9/11 Truth' = the biggest roadblock to me before seeing the museum. However, many in the profession disagree with them....Could all of those dissenters have been paid off?....that's pretty hard to swallow. Most people in government, employees and interns, can keep quiet....but then think Linda Tripp and Monica Lewinsky . If there had been inside help, could it have been kept quiet?

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by Flammable

Thanks for the reply nook. Here is what bothers me about the terrorist 9-11 thing, there are way too many questions about the 9/11 such as how planes brought down the twin towers, build 7 of WTC fell by fire alone so they tell us which is the first time in history a modern building fell from fire alone. The British news was broadcasting about building 7 falling and in the background you could see it clearly standing. All three buildings fell at the speed of gravity and looked exactly like buildings you see being pulled by the pros when demolishing. They cleaned up the debris quick and hid it in warehouses where nobody could see it. All the cameras they have at the pentagon and all they have of that "plane" hitting there is a burry clip you can't even make out. The big thing that sticks out to me is that a bunch of guys with box cutters taking orders for a bearded man hiding in a cave across the world defeated one of the most sophisticated defensive systems in the world. I can go on and on but I think you see my point. I just am not convinced some on the inside didn't help this thing happen.

If by any chance you happen to be right, given the level of detail in that museum, i'd think it would have to go down as the most well orchestrated coverup in human history.