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BMGYaris · 06-20-2007, 09:47 PM

WOW. you guys are really awesome, I have spent the last days studying metals and I hadn't expected so much of a response on the car forum, but you guys really live up to your name. First, for those interested, I am buying this diamond:

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.as...1&item=1060536

and I am thinking right now to have it set in this setting:

http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.ht...on=show_detail

It has the simple classic "tiffany" look that I know my gf wants but it has alot more elegance and beauty than the more classic design. I love how it tapers up into the head.

You guys should come join another awesome forum (though not nearly as functional as this one, well done) its pricescope.com My name is WorkingHardForSmallRewards, come by and say hi.

Now, I have done alot of research into metals, so I guess I will share my knowledge here now. Gold is yellow of course, and is rhodium plated. Those who's gold turns yellow can take it into the the jewelers and have it re-rhodium plated for a pretty low price, but you probably know this. However, there are some combinations of White Gold, such as WG alloyed with palladium that even in 18k gold appears white enough that you wouldn't really need a rhodium plating. However, you would have a hard time finding it at local American jewelery stores.

and Platinum is actually significantly harder than WG alloys, WG alloys range something like 180 Vic hardness whereas Platinum is something like 213. Also, white gold scratches and loses precious metal over time but then it is soft enough that it bassically buffs out and smooths off with regular wear.

Platinum doesn't "scratch" but the metal actually pushes to the side in tiny tiny "micro-scratches", bassically it is very malleable and bends rather than scratches. Also, it is too hard to "buff" with regular wear, so the tiny "scratches" will remain until taken to a professional--where I hear they come back pretty quickly. However, you can always have platinum rhodium plated if you want and that will make it whiter, cover and prevent the patina, and still give you the heft of platinum--but nobody does that.

I have chosen what I think to be a happy medium, a 950parts Palladium ring alloyed with ruthenium. This is considered more "precious" as it has more precious metal than 18kWG (which is 75% gold) and it is also white on its own and does not necessarily require a rhodium plating. It has the benefits of not scratching but lacks the weight of platinum. I will however have it rhodium plated because I hate the patina look, like everyone else here, and it will be totally hyperallogenic and even as the rhodium plating wears away there will be a white palladium underneath (instead of the faint yellow from the gold) which should keep it from looking bad even over several years with absolutly minimal maintaince.

Anyway, I will post pics up here when I get it, but rigth now it looks like palladium is the way to go, its about 1/6 the price of platinum with MOST of its benefits (its not as hard as platinum, or as heavy) but it also gets rid of all of the problems with White Gold (allthough it is really very similar to the White Gold/Palladium mix, only slightly more pure with a whiter natural appearance and more malleable so you don't lose precious metal)

Finally, if any of you are buying diamonds in the future email me, I learned a little bit about metals, but I know ALOT about diamonds!

ceres · 06-20-2007, 10:12 PM

Looks nice. I'm personally not a fan of large stones. I prefer a look like this:
http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.ht...on=show_detail
or all in the band like this:
http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.ht...on=show_detail

Though the band can be mistaken for a "souped up" wedding band over an actual engagement ring.

BMGYaris · 06-20-2007, 10:23 PM

Yea, i really like that second one. But remember, the diamond in my picture is actually a 1 ct, mine is a .61 ct, so it will be about 1.1 mm smaller (.55mm perside in the round) than the one in that picture. However, they will round out and thin the prongs for me a little bit so that it still really emphasies the diamond.

But yea, I like that secondo ne alot and it is similar ot one that I showed her a long time ago. I thought it was AMAZING. She almost puked
lol, she hates that look! so nothing much i can do about that:P

06-20-2007, 10:12 PM	#20
ceres Club Baby Seals Drives: Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NY Posts: 206	Looks nice. I'm personally not a fan of large stones. I prefer a look like this: http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.ht...on=show_detail or all in the band like this: http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.ht...on=show_detail Though the band can be mistaken for a "souped up" wedding band over an actual engagement ring. __________________

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BMGYaris Drives: Yaris 3dr Hatchback Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 255	WOW. you guys are really awesome, I have spent the last days studying metals and I hadn't expected so much of a response on the car forum, but you guys really live up to your name. First, for those interested, I am buying this diamond: http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.as...1&item=1060536 and I am thinking right now to have it set in this setting: http://www.knoxjewelers.biz/index.ht...on=show_detail It has the simple classic "tiffany" look that I know my gf wants but it has alot more elegance and beauty than the more classic design. I love how it tapers up into the head. You guys should come join another awesome forum (though not nearly as functional as this one, well done) its pricescope.com My name is WorkingHardForSmallRewards, come by and say hi. Now, I have done alot of research into metals, so I guess I will share my knowledge here now. Gold is yellow of course, and is rhodium plated. Those who's gold turns yellow can take it into the the jewelers and have it re-rhodium plated for a pretty low price, but you probably know this. However, there are some combinations of White Gold, such as WG alloyed with palladium that even in 18k gold appears white enough that you wouldn't really need a rhodium plating. However, you would have a hard time finding it at local American jewelery stores. and Platinum is actually significantly harder than WG alloys, WG alloys range something like 180 Vic hardness whereas Platinum is something like 213. Also, white gold scratches and loses precious metal over time but then it is soft enough that it bassically buffs out and smooths off with regular wear. Platinum doesn't "scratch" but the metal actually pushes to the side in tiny tiny "micro-scratches", bassically it is very malleable and bends rather than scratches. Also, it is too hard to "buff" with regular wear, so the tiny "scratches" will remain until taken to a professional--where I hear they come back pretty quickly. However, you can always have platinum rhodium plated if you want and that will make it whiter, cover and prevent the patina, and still give you the heft of platinum--but nobody does that. I have chosen what I think to be a happy medium, a 950parts Palladium ring alloyed with ruthenium. This is considered more "precious" as it has more precious metal than 18kWG (which is 75% gold) and it is also white on its own and does not necessarily require a rhodium plating. It has the benefits of not scratching but lacks the weight of platinum. I will however have it rhodium plated because I hate the patina look, like everyone else here, and it will be totally hyperallogenic and even as the rhodium plating wears away there will be a white palladium underneath (instead of the faint yellow from the gold) which should keep it from looking bad even over several years with absolutly minimal maintaince. Anyway, I will post pics up here when I get it, but rigth now it looks like palladium is the way to go, its about 1/6 the price of platinum with MOST of its benefits (its not as hard as platinum, or as heavy) but it also gets rid of all of the problems with White Gold (allthough it is really very similar to the White Gold/Palladium mix, only slightly more pure with a whiter natural appearance and more malleable so you don't lose precious metal) Finally, if any of you are buying diamonds in the future email me, I learned a little bit about metals, but I know ALOT about diamonds!

06-20-2007, 10:23 PM	#21
BMGYaris Drives: Yaris 3dr Hatchback Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 255	Yea, i really like that second one. But remember, the diamond in my picture is actually a 1 ct, mine is a .61 ct, so it will be about 1.1 mm smaller (.55mm perside in the round) than the one in that picture. However, they will round out and thin the prongs for me a little bit so that it still really emphasies the diamond. But yea, I like that secondo ne alot and it is similar ot one that I showed her a long time ago. I thought it was AMAZING. She almost puked lol, she hates that look! so nothing much i can do about that:P