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BailOut · 07-02-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Toyotech

not inventing. my job to teach and assist/install a hydrogen assist technology with a few other tweaks

I call bullshit. It takes so much energy to produce the hydrogen, and it takes so much weight to produce the protection of the highly explosive fuel cell that the overall position is that you use so much more energy and resources to make it work that it is not worth it whatsoever.

Edd · 07-02-2007, 03:00 AM

Fuel cells are ok if the hydrogen is split from water by powering it in reverse with solar. It sure takes a hell of a lot longer to produce the hydrogen than to burn it.
Methanol/Ethanol fuels are pretty good too.

Nigal · 07-02-2007, 06:40 AM

I want my damn water car and I want it now!!

Car that runs on water as seen on 60 Minutes

bnther36 · 07-02-2007, 11:01 AM

I think I read something about this already being done. It was a Canadian that built some sort of Hydrogen injection system and they were going to put it on trucks. I don't remember the MPH gains being as high as what toyotech is going for; I think it was more around 15%. Whatever happened to the technology I don't know. But I remember that there were some real concerns about the safe storage of the hydrogen. I'll see if I can't dig something up.

eTiMaGo · 07-02-2007, 11:16 AM

H2 Yaris aka mini-Hindenberg... maybe not...

bnther36 · 07-02-2007, 12:30 PM

Here's the link on that Hydrogen injection. "http://www.chechfi.ca/"
I'm just a little curious though, if it is a proven technology then why isn't it mainstream?

I'm still holding out for a PHEV

sherryberry · 07-02-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bnther36

Here's the link on that Hydrogen injection. "http://www.chechfi.ca/"
I'm just a little curious though, if it is a proven technology then why isn't it mainstream?

I'm still holding out for a PHEV

Because the oil companies don't want you to know about it!! it's a conspiracy!!!

tacsniper · 07-02-2007, 01:08 PM

will this void the warranty?

brickhardmeat · 07-02-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tacsniper

will this void the warranty?

Toyotech · 07-02-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by foober

Basically its just getting something to ignite in your combustion chamber. It can be any gas that explodes. Folks for years have come up with other than gasoline run engines. But as we know they disappear.

the company has had many success in the past and we are rushing to get ready for what is to come in the next few months. they haven't gone anywhere. and with dealership interest... i really don't see it gone anytime soon.

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Originally Posted by drifto

wow where did you find this nifty job, im getting a little bored of honda. would like to be a "former" honda tech too... :)

actually they found me. i was kinda suprised.

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Originally Posted by Edd

Fuel cells are ok if the hydrogen is split from water by powering it in reverse with solar. It sure takes a hell of a lot longer to produce the hydrogen than to burn it.
Methanol/Ethanol fuels are pretty good too.

its a hydrogen/oxygen mixture pulled from distilled water and added to the fuel mixture. this is only part of the kit though.

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Originally Posted by sherryberry

Because the oil companies don't want you to know about it!! it's a conspiracy!!!

u laugh... but im in the middle as a believer

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Originally Posted by tacsniper

will this void the warranty?

depends... they would have a very hard time proving a problem

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Originally Posted by BailOut

I call bullshit. It takes so much energy to produce the hydrogen, and it takes so much weight to produce the protection of the highly explosive fuel cell that the overall position is that you use so much more energy and resources to make it work that it is not worth it whatsoever.

highly explosive? u mean implosive...and its just a quick pop with no damage. uses so much more energy?... i said assist. so getting 70+mpg... having to add water here and there doesn't make it worth it?

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Originally Posted by bnther36

Here's the link on that Hydrogen injection. "http://www.chechfi.ca/"
I'm just a little curious though, if it is a proven technology then why isn't it mainstream?

I'm still holding out for a PHEV

because its been held back and constantly being perfected. theres more to this then the kit then what u have posted. i also didn't read everything from that company.

you will be seeing the infomercial's hit tv at the end of this month.

tacsniper · 07-02-2007, 06:50 PM

ok next question... how will you be able to offer this worldwide? well at least to US and Canada?

If someone here with a Yaris have tried it and works and either this company or Toyota will honor the warranty then yea I will pay for it.

Toyotech · 07-02-2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tacsniper

ok next question... how will you be able to offer this worldwide? well at least to US and Canada?

If someone here with a Yaris have tried it and works and either this company or Toyota will honor the warranty then yea I will pay for it.

i'm not the one offering it. they would be able to purchase it from one of our dealers which are all over the world.

i don't want to say too much or really get into it because i've been told not too. sorry its so vague.

also... if it was bullshit, i wouldn't post. why post something that may not serve function or may be fake? thats not me.

bnther36 · 07-03-2007, 10:15 PM

Well I guess we'll have to wait and see. I don't have any problem paying $900 or so if it'll take money away from the 'oil monster'. I must admit that I am somewhat skeptical...there never seems to be any shortage of mileage miracles. But I will hold off on the verdict.
Keep us posted Toyotech. If a dealer is willing to install the gizmo and it won't void any of my warrenty, then I would be willing to consider it.

tacsniper · 07-03-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bnther36

Well I guess we'll have to wait and see. I don't have any problem paying $900 or so if it'll take money away from the 'oil monster'. I must admit that I am somewhat skeptical...there never seems to be any shortage of mileage miracles. But I will hold off on the verdict.
Keep us posted Toyotech. If a dealer is willing to install the gizmo and it won't void any of my warrenty, then I would be willing to consider it.

+1

Toyotech · 07-03-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bnther36

Well I guess we'll have to wait and see. I don't have any problem paying $900 or so if it'll take money away from the 'oil monster'. I must admit that I am somewhat skeptical...there never seems to be any shortage of mileage miracles. But I will hold off on the verdict.
Keep us posted Toyotech. If a dealer is willing to install the gizmo and it won't void any of my warrenty, then I would be willing to consider it.

i completely understand.. everyone is skeptical.

i'll be looking locally to see if a tri-state yaris owner would let the students do an install on there car.. it would be free install/free kit... even free oil change and possible trans service. lol. only catch is needing it for a few days. 2 days for the soon to be trainers/students for the install and another day for me and my partner in the diag area too further test and make sure everything is good without any drivability issues.

i think once CARB is approved getting the dealerships to cover the installs will be much easier.

i will be putting this kit on my corolla too :) ...but with a mild tune not for full efficiency. i like power a little power adder too, im sure my fiance can deal with 60mpg or so

njyaris · 07-04-2007, 12:53 AM

hey toyotech thanks for sharing .. thats some interesting innovative shit meng!!!

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07-02-2007, 11:16 AM	#23
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	H2 Yaris aka mini-Hindenberg... maybe not... __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

07-04-2007, 12:53 AM	#34
njyaris YARIS NEWBIE View User's Garage Drives: YARIS 07 LIFTBACK Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NORTHERN NEW JERSEY Posts: 159	hey toyotech thanks for sharing .. thats some interesting innovative shit meng!!! __________________ Hudson County, New Jersey

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07-02-2007, 03:00 AM	#20
Edd Drives: None Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 193	Fuel cells are ok if the hydrogen is split from water by powering it in reverse with solar. It sure takes a hell of a lot longer to produce the hydrogen than to burn it. Methanol/Ethanol fuels are pretty good too.

07-02-2007, 06:40 AM	#21
Nigal Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: May 2007 Location: Piqua, Ohio Posts: 302	I want my damn water car and I want it now!! Car that runs on water as seen on 60 Minutes

07-02-2007, 11:01 AM	#22
bnther36 Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mich Posts: 84	I think I read something about this already being done. It was a Canadian that built some sort of Hydrogen injection system and they were going to put it on trucks. I don't remember the MPH gains being as high as what toyotech is going for; I think it was more around 15%. Whatever happened to the technology I don't know. But I remember that there were some real concerns about the safe storage of the hydrogen. I'll see if I can't dig something up.

07-02-2007, 12:30 PM	#24
bnther36 Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mich Posts: 84	Here's the link on that Hydrogen injection. "http://www.chechfi.ca/" I'm just a little curious though, if it is a proven technology then why isn't it mainstream? I'm still holding out for a PHEV

07-02-2007, 01:08 PM	#26
tacsniper Drives: 07 White Yaris RS Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 99	will this void the warranty?

07-02-2007, 06:50 PM	#29
tacsniper Drives: 07 White Yaris RS Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 99	ok next question... how will you be able to offer this worldwide? well at least to US and Canada? If someone here with a Yaris have tried it and works and either this company or Toyota will honor the warranty then yea I will pay for it.

07-03-2007, 10:15 PM	#31
bnther36 Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mich Posts: 84	Well I guess we'll have to wait and see. I don't have any problem paying $900 or so if it'll take money away from the 'oil monster'. I must admit that I am somewhat skeptical...there never seems to be any shortage of mileage miracles. But I will hold off on the verdict. Keep us posted Toyotech. If a dealer is willing to install the gizmo and it won't void any of my warrenty, then I would be willing to consider it.