KM to the Tank

[marcus]

what calculator are you guys using to convert km/liter to mpg...??

[stuffy]

i use this one myself:
http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/conversions.html

[edmcc]

Or this:
http://calculator-converter.com/conv...able_chart.php

[thebarber]

i hear you on the speeding stuff voodoo, if youre not comfortable speeding, go ahead and drive slow....

a small consolation: ive worked for the MTO and done some highway design (the stretch between k-w and woodstock, actually) and they design NEW highways for 120kph for an all-weather safe speed - - which i sort of look at like "if the road were icy" speed

i cant do long trips at the speed limit....i did it ONCE from london to sudbury and it was a lonnnnnnnnng drive!

if you look at the numbers from here to niagara falls (+/- 1400km) you get 14h at 100km/h (say 65mph which is the speed limit most of the way thru the states). by doing 115kph it knocks it down to 12h 10min. speeding makes a HUGE difference over such a long drive, trust me!

that being said, in town in f'ton i usually stick to the speed limit. its just those people doing 40kph that get to me! but thats another rant altogether

[dybbuk]

Originally Posted by voodoo22

I never drive more than 20 km/h under the speed limit unless traffic is jammed or something else is causing people to slow down. I try to stay just over 80 km/h, but I will go down to 80 as a basement speed. I always stay in the right lane. There are usually 2 and sometimes 4 or 5 other lanes for people to pass me on when I'm on the 401.

There are no posted speed limits of 110 where I drive. Only 100, and many people don't seem to understand that is the suggested maximum, no the minimum. There are no signs here like I've seen in Quebec where they say 100 maximum 80 minimum. I think those types of signs should be mandatory to help people understand that 100 is supposed to be the maximum.

I've had police drive by me slowly while I'm going 80, but unless I give them reasons to think I'm intoxicated they have no reason to pull me over and I will never get a ticket. I am a courteous, defensive driver who chooses to not drive the posted maximum speed.

From what I've read it's not considered safe to go 25% slower than other traffic. I'm going less than 20% slower and believe it or not I have far less people flashing their brights, cutting me off and gesturing, honking their horn etc when I started driving 80-90 vs any other speed range. 100-110 was the worst for agitating these ragers for some reason. 90-100 wasn't far off.

People who argue I should drive flow of traffic 100% of the time, don't hold water in my book. Why should I engage in a practice which is held by speeders, unsafe drivers and people who care more about being able to leave late and arrive on time than the safety of people around them? Going less than the flow of traffic when needed to increase the gap between me and the vehicle in front of me is the only way I'm able to control my safety while I'm tailgated. I do my best to keep a space between me and the car in front of me to make up for the fact that I'm most likely getting tailgated by someone who will be unable to stop in time if something happens. Knowing the space in front of me will do no good with the tailgater is something happens to my vehicle I vigilantly maintain the Yaris to do my best to prevent a failure of any sort on the highway.

I would have thought my behaviour was surprising a few years ago as well, but you'd probably be surprised at how practicing this behaviour plays out in the real world... in my driving situation anyways.

I can't speak for the 401/407/QEW experience very much. In NB the divided highway is 110 all the way, so that's where I pulled that number from. The police also can absolutely pull you over if you're going slower then the flow of traffic or usually 30kph under the limit (I know it's in some state laws even though it's not posted on the highways). I work for FedEx in NB and one of our agent carriers gets pulled over bi-weekly because he drives a plain white van with no banners. His route is timed out all day. From 5:30am-7:00pm. He's usually travelling 10-20 kph under the limit because there's no pint in going faster. Perhaps it's the difference between OPH and RCMP, but, many law enforcement agencies say the safest way to travel is travelling with the flow of traffic. I do however agree in a hyper aggressive environment certain steps need to be taken. When I read 80 (and me being used to highways at 110) I automatically drew the conclusion of 30 under. Especially on our sparse NB highways. My apologies for drawing conclusions, however it makes the image much clearer after qualifying/quantifying some things. A blanket statement of going 80kph could get some people killed is all. And in NB is says 110 Maximum. It doesn't say MAX in Ont?

[drummerboy2004]

My best numbers are 552.7 miles/889.48 km for the highway, and 491.3 miles/790.67 km for roughly 100% city. I never go over 55, and always coast to lights...

Matt

[dybbuk]

NICE! I'm in YFCA. Are you a courier/dispatch/ramp?

[buchieboy]

Just got a second hand yaris with 20000km on it 3 weeks ago and the fuel consumption bothers me.

Mine can only go for 55km for the first bar. All in all i can go up to 300km before the fuel bar starts to blink, so thats around 9.5km/liter

This is all 100% city driving with lots of stops, and i dont even step on the pedal! (never reached 2500 RPM !!!)

Car has just been serviced by toyota and they claim that there is nothing wrong.

What can i do to improve efficiency? I was expecting at least 11 (Manila, Philippines driving)

[Jem_hadar]

Originally Posted by marcus

what calculator are you guys using to convert km/liter to mpg...??

Either:

1) http://www.eforecourt.com/l_100km_mpg_convert.htm (BEST / EASIEST SITE EVER for it IMO); or

2) Google (just type "convert 5.5 l/100km to mpg" and it tells you ... note: that's US MPG, btw)

Jem

[Jem_hadar]

Originally Posted by buchieboy

. . .
so thats around 9.5km/liter
. . .
What can i do to improve efficiency? I was expecting at least 11 (Manila, Philippines driving)

State fuel efficiency in L/100km (not km/L)!

Even if just for your own benefit, it'll help w/ comparison purposes with others on here (which is what you would like to know, too, presumably, I assume).

We dont deal with kms per liter in Canada... but liters per 100 kms!

Anyways, just a helpful FYI.

Jem



EDIT:

But, 9.5 (kilometers / l) = 10.5263158 l/100km = 26.84 MPG (UK) = 22.35 MPG (US)


Which is definitely pretty poor. Yikes. :(

[buchieboy]

Yup, you got it right, only 10.5L/100KM for a stock 5 door 1.5L AT city driving.
City driving meaning around 45 minutes = 14 KM with lots of stops and max speed only up to 60 due to traffic..

Darn Irritating!~

[BluYrs]

The most I've done on a tank was 654 km, still had 4 litres left in the tank, which was good for another 67 km. So theoretically I could have done ~720 km to the tank. And that was city driving at 5,93 l/100km...

[gboezio]

Summer time : 600 km
Winter time 550 km from full to last bar blinking.
24 000 km 08 Yaris.
I'm not able to drive any slower than 100 on back roads and 120 Hwy.
As for safe speed, the safest speed is to follow the traffic, you encounter a minimum of cars, have a minimum of lane changes, don't have to pass, no need to be passed.

[Slinger007]

I almost always get 700km before I need to fill up again, and I usually only get 36 liters of gas back into the tank, so I guess I could travel a little more. One day Ill buy a Geri can and see where my car dies. I have pushed it as far as 740km (once) but the gas bar indicator is blinking rapidly. I have two work commutes, one is 80km return and the other is 238km return. And thats going 110km/h most of the way sometimes a little up to 120km/h and with the a/c on in the summer, but when I put my winter tires on it drops to about 600km (ish) per tank.

2009 Yaris auto, with 108,000Km