"Parmas" Motor

[johnny_vitz]

Originally Posted by Parmas

Yes infact the middle bolt of the manifold flange needed to be replaced to a shorter one because of the drain going down exactly infront. Took me about 10min to fix that only bolt in due to lack of space.

Oh, ok Looked a bit tight in there...
Wrap looks good, I just bought some to do my header...eventually.

[Parmas]

Originally Posted by johnny_vitz

Oh, ok Looked a bit tight in there...
Wrap looks good, I just bought some to do my header...eventually.

I hope you have my patience cause you really need with it. Good luck

[Parmas]

Yes I'm late posting.... I have been busy with lots of works out on going project and this is finally the last mod since there isn't any other space available now LOL!

Summer special tune.... Idividual Twin Radiator setup. The aftermarket rad is fitted after the turbo line in order to prevent unwanted heat from the turbo affecting engine temperature... I was seeing 90C and over with the fan on. Also I installed another fan on the front which is visible on the picture as an add on!

I also installed the Torque damper with lots of custom work to make it fit and also an exhaust motor that cuts the exhaust from the middle. Next thing up dyno although the engine is pretty quick with only 12psi boost. I am almost sure it is above 220Bhp now .... hope to make it up till 300Bhp at 16psi!

Will post pics and vids on the dyno next up!

[rob323]

Did the extra radiator help? And where are you measuring your water temps?

[cali yaris]

My radiator runs full width, it's really too good, the car runs a little too cold when the ambient temps are under 80 degrees outside.

[Bluevitz-rs]

time to move the battery to the back of the car. It'll help to offset some of the added weight and free up an additional 1 cubic foot of space for more stuff

[rob323]

Originally Posted by Parmas

. I was seeing 90C and over with the fan on.

The highest I've seen is 104 degrees C. Are you running an oil cooler Parmas? That should help the water temps a bit too.

[Parmas]

Still not tried the setup yet cannot tell for now that the extra rad and fan how much they are better. The Water Temps are measured after the water outlet of the engine.

No I love the battery there and I really need to stop modifiying the engine cause I better put some cash on brakes and suspensions!

No oil cooler, the oil temps are about 60 - 70 C the max I seen. That is already good that way. Also I don't want to have pressure loss....

[rob323]

Originally Posted by Parmas

Also I don't want to have pressure loss....

That's an urban myth and isn't a problem if it's done right.

I'm surprised at how low your oil temps are, especially if your water temps are high.

[Yoda]

+1 on the suspension.

[Parmas]

Originally Posted by rob323

I'm surprised at how low your oil temps are, especially if your water temps are high.

I confirm the oil temps are seeing maximum of 65C Degrees under load.

Today I tried the engine on street and pushed it on gears above 6Krpm. I can notice a great benefit with the extra radiator and fan. The max temp seen 91C Degrees and cooled down quickly to 85C in just a minute of the fans on.

I need to fine tune the fuel map and Cam timing and then off to the dyno to check powerband and torque accross the rpm range. Cross Fingers!

[Yoda]

If you don't mind me asking how much did u sink in this thing already?

[Parmas]

Originally Posted by Yoda

If you don't mind me asking how much did u sink in this thing already?

If you are referring to money ...well all I can say is that I spent much more than I expected but I have more than I thought aswell!

[johnny_vitz]

Any updates, or dyno numbers?

[Parmas]

Originally Posted by johnny_vitz

Any updates, or dyno numbers?

Dyno is scheduled on 29 August and I hope some good numbers at the wheels.

I am a bit worried how much boost and revs I am going to give her because of the stock head so if any would give a heads up of a limit just post it here...

During the time I found a good deal on a set of D2 racing shocks. They are extremely sensitive on street and I can feel every little bump on the street (not comfortable at all) but at least rock solid on street corners.
Also I am having less wheelspin when giving her full throttle from a stop sign

Here is the update:

[Blown_xa]

Originally Posted by Parmas

Dyno is scheduled on 29 August and I hope some good numbers at the wheels.

I am a bit worried how much boost and revs I am going to give her because of the stock head so if any would give a heads up of a limit just post it here...

During the time I found a good deal on a set of D2 racing shocks. They are extremely sensitive on street and I can feel every little bump on the street (not comfortable at all) but at least rock solid on street corners.
Also I am having less wheelspin when giving her full throttle from a stop sign

Here is the update:

Boost as much as your fuelling is good for! I have stock head and head bolts too. 7300 rpm has been just fine. I can vouch that the stock head can withstand past 8000rpm as I accidentally found out twice ( dropped it in 2nd instead of 4th on the dragstrip.. whoops ). I wouldn't set it at 8000rpm though lol. My factory tach won't read past 8000rpm so Im not too sure what it went too. Is It bad when the 1nzfe sounds like an F1 engine? jk.
Set it at 7300 if it still makes power.

I just looked at your picture few posts above... make sure your pipes are bead rolled or the dyno session may get pricey if they have to keep putting back blown off intercooler pipes. May be fine at the boost you're at now........

[cali yaris]

I'm excited for you, looking forward to some great numbers!!

[Bluevitz-rs]

Originally Posted by Blown_xa

Boost as much as your fuelling is good for! I have stock head and head bolts too. 7300 rpm has been just fine. I can vouch that the stock head can withstand past 8000rpm as I accidentally found out twice ( dropped it in 2nd instead of 4th on the dragstrip.. whoops ). I wouldn't set it at 8000rpm though lol. My factory tach won't read past 8000rpm so Im not too sure what it went too. Is It bad when the 1nzfe sounds like an F1 engine? jk.
Set it at 7300 if it still makes power.

I just looked at your picture few posts above... make sure your pipes are bead rolled or the dyno session may get pricey if they have to keep putting back blown off intercooler pipes. May be fine at the boost you're at now........

I can say for certain that the valve train won't keep up for long past 8000. I did the same thing once only I was on a road trip passing a couple gravel truck and somehow managed to pull it to second from the limiter in 3rd. Motor went to 8600 and sounded like someone through gravel inside the engine. 3 bent valves was the result. Luckily the motor kept running and I made it there >another 200km. The funniest part was that it didn't even set a misfire code or anything.

So wouldn't go past 7500 on the stock top end.