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05-23-2011, 12:03 PM | #37 | |
Nothing beats a Toyota!
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As for maintenance, yea I'd rather pull a dipstick and check ATF in comparison to the unbolting check bolt and fingering gearbox, anyday. What do you think about higher end cars (mercedes-benz, etc) that have the MT as an optional extra? I appreciate your position and insights as I've never had correspondence with someone who worked with pools of motors. Cheers
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05-26-2011, 02:10 PM | #38 |
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I will say that if I move back to SoCal, with the many freeways and bad traffic, I will regret it, and will have to get something with an auto. However here in Pittsburgh, MT is the way to go. I just hate the artificial feel of the gas pedal and the slight increase in RPM's I get as I shift. Annoying. Other than that, I'm getting 39 mpg, so I'm happy. :)
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05-26-2011, 03:59 PM | #39 | |
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I think the ONLY place I would not want an MT is the hilly streets of San Francisco; my guess is that clutches don't last long there unless you have a car with "hill-holder" type automatic brakes like Subaru used to have. Even then, who knows? One may get used to commuting with an MT there as well... |
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05-26-2011, 09:05 PM | #40 |
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No way.
And as technology has been advancing, ATs are becoming more common, even in Europe. 10-15 years ago you'd never see them over there, when we took our 95 VW Passat over the Germans were surprised to see it was an AT. Now I see more and more autos when I go over there. MTs are losing their small edge in performance and efficiency, if anything it won't be too long before they may disappear completely. In real performance cars they are getting rarer and rarer. Enjoy your primitive clutching and manual gear changes, guys; I predict in ten years you're gonna be hard pressed to find cars with them!
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05-26-2011, 09:48 PM | #41 |
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[QUOTE=MadMax;582897]MTs are losing their small edge in performance and efficiency, if anything it won't be too long before they may disappear completely. In real performance cars they are getting rarer and rarer./QUOTE]
My choice of MT has nothing to do with fuel economy, shifting speed, track times, efficiency, performance, etc. It is all about enjoying the act of driving. I've said this in other forums (and maybe here): there is nothing like setting up a perfect four-wheel drift after doing the perfect heel-and-toe through a corner. It is just so much fun and that is all there is to it. So, I agree that new and newer generations of ATs will probably eventually outperform MTs in every objectively measurable way. But, unless they come up with a double-clutch, paddle shifter SMG system that can be overriden by a clutch pedal and four-(or five or six)-on-the-floor, I plan on keeping all of my MT cars forever or until the gasoline runs out. |
05-27-2011, 02:35 PM | #42 | |
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As for hills: no problem for me, as I live in Pittsburgh, which is nothing but hills, and am used to it. The clutch in the Festiva was never changed and had 226k on it when I sold it, still working great. Having to traverse hills doesn't automatically mean the clutch won't last long; it's all how you use it. :)
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05-30-2011, 12:53 AM | #43 |
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I love my Auto , the Yaris Auto transmission really performs very
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06-02-2011, 11:26 AM | #44 |
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Amen!
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06-03-2011, 10:17 PM | #45 |
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A t the best after a Dodge power wagon 11 inch clutch never again.
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06-25-2011, 09:39 PM | #46 |
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AT YOU GET A BAD BACK YOU'LL UNDERSTAND.
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06-26-2011, 01:36 AM | #47 |
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07-08-2011, 07:31 PM | #48 |
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the yaris is fine with an AT, but I couldn't imagine anything sportier with an AT. I drive an MT as my DD and don't find it bothersome even in heavy/construction traffic. Once you get used to it, its second nature. I strongly believe in having control over my vehicle.
and now... to get on my soapbox....if everyone drove MT cars, there'd be less distracted/drunk/cell phone blathering idiots driving. it wouldn't eliminate them all, but its harder to do those things and shift at the same time! |
07-18-2011, 02:52 PM | #49 |
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My GF has a AT , every time I drive it I have to sit on my left foot b/c 30 years of driving MT I am used to a clutch and when I go to shift I hit the brake pedal and WHAMMO , my freakin head smacks the steering wheel ......not pretty
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08-16-2011, 07:18 PM | #50 | |
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09-07-2011, 07:24 PM | #51 |
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The ocassional emergency power situation is in favor of the automatic....don't always have that extra second to downshift to 2nd or 3rd. Haven't seen too many law enforcment with manuals for a few decades either.
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09-07-2011, 08:45 PM | #52 |
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i regret not spending the extra grand for a automatic
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09-09-2011, 11:44 AM | #53 | |
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better to drive, cheaper to repair and just a different way of life
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09-10-2011, 10:52 AM | #54 |
i love my auto, but every so often i miss driving manual and wish i had gone with it. it's not an every day thing but it does happen
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