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Appalachian Trail 2007 · 11-12-2008, 08:41 PM

hey loren, 500snakz says its not possible to even get 48mpg so I'd give up on the 55 dream...

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10642

Bob_VT · 11-12-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Appalachian Trail 2007

hey loren, 500snakz says its not possible to even get 48mpg so I'd give up on the 55 dream...

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10642

Uhhhhhh maybe Bailout will post a link to his gas log...... I think you will be surprised. 55 is high but 50 has been seen by many.

Appalachian Trail 2007 · 11-12-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob_VT

Uhhhhhh maybe Bailout will post a link to his gas log...... I think you will be surprised. 55 is high but 50 has been seen by many.

oh I know, it's 500snakz that doesn't believe

drummerboy2004 · 11-12-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Appalachian Trail 2007

oh I know, it's 500snakz that doesn't believe

Well then... I think we need to put Snakz on a plane! jk

Matt

Appalachian Trail 2007 · 11-12-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by drummerboy2004

Well then... I think we need to put Snakz on a plane! jk

Matt

(Snakes on a plane...)

hahahaha yeah I got it the first time

drummerboy2004 · 11-12-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Appalachian Trail 2007

hey loren, 500snakz says its not possible to even get 48mpg so I'd give up on the 55 dream...

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10642

55 is easy in the MT

... I have an AT, and have pulled over 50 for a trip longer than 200 miles. Oh, and 48... that should be about city mileage in the MT if you drive it well enough. You can do it!

Matt

Bob_VT · 11-12-2008, 09:00 PM

here is Bailout's gas log.....
http://www.gassavers.org/garage/viewgaslog/2128

drummerboy2004 · 11-12-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob_VT

here is Bailout's gas log.....
http://www.gassavers.org/garage/viewgaslog/2128

You're right...

If you "FAS it up", you can easily exceed that as well...

Matt

Loren · 11-12-2008, 10:20 PM

I'm tired of these mother uckin' snakes on this mother uckin' plane!
too many mother uckers

Alright, let's not drag Mr. 500snakes through the mud here. He'll either learn or he won't, but he has nothing to do with this thread... let's be nice to the newbs.

Quick question for those who use FAS and have a Scangauge:

I gather that I need to set my mode to "Hybrid" to get the Scangauge to work properly. If I do that, will the Scangauge then give me accurate readings even through multiple FAS sessions? (no time to really test the theory before Sunday) Or will the ScanGauge ignore some or all of the FAS session and only report the MPG that occurred while the ignition is on?

drummerboy2004 · 11-12-2008, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Loren

I'm tired of these mother uckin' snakes on this mother uckin' plane!
too many mother uckers

Alright, let's not drag Mr. 500snakes through the mud here. He'll either learn or he won't, but he has nothing to do with this thread... let's be nice to the newbs.

Quick question for those who use FAS and have a Scangauge:

I gather that I need to set my mode to "Hybrid" to get the Scangauge to work properly. If I do that, will the Scangauge then give me accurate readings even through multiple FAS sessions? (no time to really test the theory before Sunday) Or will the ScanGauge ignore some or all of the FAS session and only report the MPG that occurred while the ignition is on?

I know I shouldn't, but I have FASed in my car...
It typically stays on while you are turning off the car, and records all but whatever happens while the car is off...
This being said, it fails to record for usually <1sec...
If you have it set to hybrid, you will have no problem... My numbers usually stay accurate with FAS usage.

ADDED: Oh, and during the FAS your MPG will read over 1000, but you are actually using 0 gas, so this may lead to inaccuracies over the course of a long trip. I only use it going to long red lights.

Matt

enkid · 11-14-2008, 10:32 PM

You're going to find it difficult - hypermiling and keeping your overall average speed up to 45 are conflicting goals. You'll probably have to drive above the speed limit for some segments to make up for lost time and stops.

Loren · 11-14-2008, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by enkid

You're going to find it difficult - hypermiling and keeping your overall average speed up to 45 are conflicting goals. You'll probably have to drive above the speed limit for some segments to make up for lost time and stops.

Yep, it will be a challenge. That's why I set it up the way I did. Where's the fun in doing something that's easy?

The plan is to P&G up to about 5 over and 10 under the speed limit in most places. (traffic permitting) The highest speed limit is 60, about half of the route is 55. The rest is slower, but will balance out. I've already segmented out the route and calculated times based on expected speeds for each segment. It works... now, if I can just stick to the plan!

drummerboy2004 · 11-15-2008, 01:28 AM

I will try and make it to a future one of these...

I have school-related things the rest of the semester

Oh, and word of advice, if you didn't think to... bring your speed average up by hauling ass (hypermiler haul 60) when you hit the downgrades, that way you do not find yourself having to do this on a lot of the flats. Then you could ride your speed down in a great-length FAS.

Hope this wasn't common sense...

Matt

Loren · 11-15-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by drummerboy2004

Hope this wasn't common sense...

Well, it's common sense to an experienced hypermiler. ;)

Tomorrow's the big day. Bought a roll of self-adhesive aerodynamic improver (clear packing tape) yesterday. I'll stick some of that on the car today and air up the tires. Should be good to go.

JnC · 11-15-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Loren

Bought a roll of self-adhesive aerodynamic improver (clear packing tape) yesterday. I'll stick some of that on the car today ...

I'd be scared of packing tape adhesive pulling off the paint when you remove it. Would suggest masking tape instead.

Best of luck!

metalshark · 11-16-2008, 01:53 AM

First go get-ya some of them Imperial gallons. The canucks have an edge there....but seriously my last trip with Amsoil 5w-20 got 39.3 MPG with cruise control set at 50% 65 MPH and 50% 75 MPH. In town before the switch to light oil my best commuting was 43 MPG for three tanks straight. I still have to "have discipline" to test for mileage after the change.

Loren · 11-16-2008, 10:45 PM

My groove. I wasn't on it.

Worse yet, my ScanGauge was lying to me. Was in a rush this morning and didn't check MPG when I filled up or I might have caught that it was off and reset it. So, I wasn't trying overly hard today (just wasn't in the mood), just did my usual DFCO coasting and gentle acceleration, similar to what I did to net 49.9 mpg before, but with about 10psi more air pressure in the tires, lower grille and foglight holes taped, right-side mirror folded and antenna removed. I did a little bit of FAS, and I did kill the engine at stop lights... figured that would have been good for a little, but it just wasn't happening.

The ScanGauge was telling me that I was getting close to 56 mpg. It peaked at 56.2 at one point, but couldn't hold it. Ended up with a 54.8 average on the first leg, 55.8 on the second leg, and 55.7 on the third leg. I thought I was doing okay... well enough to at least claim 1.5x EPA (54 mpg). Boy was I disappointed when I filled up, did the math and saw 49.92 mpg!

But, my buddy (the only other person who showed up!) had a better day in his Sentra. He's got the bad boy Sentra SE-R Spec V, 2.5 with a 6-speed. He wasn't planning to compete, but we talked last night and after he complained of never getting more than about 32 mpg out of the car, I assured him that based on the EPA figures, I was sure he could get at least 38 mpg on this trip. We talked about hypermiling techniques, and he tried a few on his drive home and found that they do indeed work... very well. He was inspired, went to bed thinking about it, and was STOKED in the morning, ready to run!

He attacked the event in his typical style. He's "all or nothing" when it comes to competition. So, he removed his back seat and some other weight (he's got the stuff unbolted already for racing), taped his grille, and proceeded to hypermile the hell out of the Sentra! He was trying WAY harder than I was, and he deserved the "win" in today's event. He returned 41.7 mpg out of a car rated at 27 mpg highway. Over 1.5x the EPA. Impressive, indeed.

He did it mostly by using FAS and extreme pulse and glide. His car has enough torque to accelerate pretty easily from 30 mph in 6th gear. So, what he did after some experimenting was accelerate up to 60-70 mph (depending on the road), kill the ignition and neutral-coast down to 30 mph (traffic permitting). He put my 10-15 mph pulse & glides to shame!

So, I guess I need to master FAS before I try another economy run.

Coolest thing today... I pretty much drove for 6 hours straight with a couple little breaks and only used 3.6 gallons of gas that I paid $2.01/gallon for. Where else can you get 6 hours of entertainment for under $10?

50MPGDream · 11-18-2008, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Loren

The ScanGauge was telling me that I was getting close to 56 mpg. It peaked at 56.2 at one point, but couldn't hold it. Ended up with a 54.8 average on the first leg, 55.8 on the second leg, and 55.7 on the third leg. I thought I was doing okay... well enough to at least claim 1.5x EPA (54 mpg). Boy was I disappointed when I filled up, did the math and saw 49.92 mpg!

woah! did you get fuel at the same pump you went to last time you filled up? my SGII has never been that far off. what correction % are you at?

11-12-2008, 08:41 PM	#1
Appalachian Trail 2007 View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 80	hey loren, 500snakz says its not possible to even get 48mpg so I'd give up on the 55 dream... http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10642 __________________ 3,441,567,453 posts BH (Before Hack)

11-12-2008, 09:00 PM	#7
Bob_VT View User's Garage Drives: 08 Yaris LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,704	here is Bailout's gas log..... http://www.gassavers.org/garage/viewgaslog/2128 __________________ some people are little slinkies. . . . .they are really good for nothing. . . .but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs. Come to the DARKSIDE..... We have candy

11-12-2008, 10:20 PM	#9
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	I'm tired of these mother uckin' snakes on this mother uckin' plane! too many mother uckers Alright, let's not drag Mr. 500snakes through the mud here. He'll either learn or he won't, but he has nothing to do with this thread... let's be nice to the newbs. Quick question for those who use FAS and have a Scangauge: I gather that I need to set my mode to "Hybrid" to get the Scangauge to work properly. If I do that, will the Scangauge then give me accurate readings even through multiple FAS sessions? (no time to really test the theory before Sunday) Or will the ScanGauge ignore some or all of the FAS session and only report the MPG that occurred while the ignition is on? __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

11-15-2008, 01:28 AM	#13
drummerboy2004 Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Auto Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 166	I will try and make it to a future one of these... I have school-related things the rest of the semester Oh, and word of advice, if you didn't think to... bring your speed average up by hauling ass (hypermiler haul 60) when you hit the downgrades, that way you do not find yourself having to do this on a lot of the flats. Then you could ride your speed down in a great-length FAS. Hope this wasn't common sense... Matt __________________

11-16-2008, 01:53 AM	#16
metalshark MetalShark Drives: 2008 Yaris LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 104	First go get-ya some of them Imperial gallons. The canucks have an edge there....but seriously my last trip with Amsoil 5w-20 got 39.3 MPG with cruise control set at 50% 65 MPH and 50% 75 MPH. In town before the switch to light oil my best commuting was 43 MPG for three tanks straight. I still have to "have discipline" to test for mileage after the change. __________________ Absolutely red, Drawtite hitch, CAI, Insulated Header, Amsoil 5w-30, Mag-drain plug, Red-Line MT-90 tranny oil, Scotch-Guard, Window Tint, Dash rug, Custom short throw shifter, Lowered OEM arm rest, Super-Turbo muffler/w chrome slash cut tip., TRD rear sway bar, sticky pads, front shock tower bar, RS grill badge, VVT-i emblems, Second tire set from Tirerack.com, DISABLED DAY TIME RUNNING LIGHTS, platform- style locking custom bike rack. 86K miles so far. 5 years use now on ceramic wrapped insulated stainless-steel header.

11-14-2008, 10:32 PM	#11
enkid Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: RI, USA Posts: 25	You're going to find it difficult - hypermiling and keeping your overall average speed up to 45 are conflicting goals. You'll probably have to drive above the speed limit for some segments to make up for lost time and stops.

11-16-2008, 10:45 PM	#17
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	My groove. I wasn't on it. Worse yet, my ScanGauge was lying to me. Was in a rush this morning and didn't check MPG when I filled up or I might have caught that it was off and reset it. So, I wasn't trying overly hard today (just wasn't in the mood), just did my usual DFCO coasting and gentle acceleration, similar to what I did to net 49.9 mpg before, but with about 10psi more air pressure in the tires, lower grille and foglight holes taped, right-side mirror folded and antenna removed. I did a little bit of FAS, and I did kill the engine at stop lights... figured that would have been good for a little, but it just wasn't happening. The ScanGauge was telling me that I was getting close to 56 mpg. It peaked at 56.2 at one point, but couldn't hold it. Ended up with a 54.8 average on the first leg, 55.8 on the second leg, and 55.7 on the third leg. I thought I was doing okay... well enough to at least claim 1.5x EPA (54 mpg). Boy was I disappointed when I filled up, did the math and saw 49.92 mpg! But, my buddy (the only other person who showed up!) had a better day in his Sentra. He's got the bad boy Sentra SE-R Spec V, 2.5 with a 6-speed. He wasn't planning to compete, but we talked last night and after he complained of never getting more than about 32 mpg out of the car, I assured him that based on the EPA figures, I was sure he could get at least 38 mpg on this trip. We talked about hypermiling techniques, and he tried a few on his drive home and found that they do indeed work... very well. He was inspired, went to bed thinking about it, and was STOKED in the morning, ready to run! He attacked the event in his typical style. He's "all or nothing" when it comes to competition. So, he removed his back seat and some other weight (he's got the stuff unbolted already for racing), taped his grille, and proceeded to hypermile the hell out of the Sentra! He was trying WAY harder than I was, and he deserved the "win" in today's event. He returned 41.7 mpg out of a car rated at 27 mpg highway. Over 1.5x the EPA. Impressive, indeed. He did it mostly by using FAS and extreme pulse and glide. His car has enough torque to accelerate pretty easily from 30 mph in 6th gear. So, what he did after some experimenting was accelerate up to 60-70 mph (depending on the road), kill the ignition and neutral-coast down to 30 mph (traffic permitting). He put my 10-15 mph pulse & glides to shame! So, I guess I need to master FAS before I try another economy run. Coolest thing today... I pretty much drove for 6 hours straight with a couple little breaks and only used 3.6 gallons of gas that I paid $2.01/gallon for. Where else can you get 6 hours of entertainment for under $10? __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

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