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Old 11-13-2008, 10:54 AM   #37
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I like the lower gas prices, it enables me to drive my Jeep more often because it is cheaper than when gas was near $4/gal. But I love driving the Yaris and getting a lot of miles out of a gallon of gas as well, so it still gets its fair share of road time. I also have two motorcycles, so if I want performance and/or better mileage than the Yaris, I have them. And the wife drives our Honda Odyssey, so if we need to haul anything (to include the kids), we use it.

Overall, it is nice not having to spend $70+ at the pump. I still haven't filled my Yaris up for under $20, but I am close! At one point back in 2001, gas was down to 79¢/gallon here...it would be real nice to see that again!

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Old 11-13-2008, 11:30 AM   #38
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60 MPG with the 1.5 MT gasser!? Man I’d love that. With my hilly commute and me having troubles keeping the 45 mpg tanks terrain is going to dictate what I can achieve. I’m thinking 50 is about all I will be able to manage. Not that I won’t try for more but that might be just out of my range.

I did have almost a 55 mpg average, for 50 mile trip, home a couple times by going 20 miles out of my way for shopping. That I could improve on by traveling it a couple times but it would actually use more gas overall to get the better number. I just picked to live in a crappy mpg commute location.
Yeah, I wouldn't think 60 is attainable unless the person driving has a lot of refined technique and the weather and commute allows for extreme driving, but I bet it's easy to get if those criteria are met.

In my experience, anything in the mid to high 40's is not attained without a lot of discipline, so even on my relatively easy commute, you'd be doing great with those numbers.
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:33 AM   #39
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I always get the feeling that my attempts to conserve are being trumped by the addition of another person who has no care in the world about economy because, from what I have noticed, there are a billion bad (or inefficient) drivers to every one of us. Sucks... I just hope that more and more people catch onto the trend every time gas gets high... because they do not care when it gets low again. For them, it is back to mashing the foot on the gas.

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I know exactly what you mean, but maybe think of it this way. Those bad drivers will be wasting resources whether you conserve or not. So you're offsetting their waste.. at least a little bit.

People will whine and complain about anything, but never change their behaviour to come to a solution. If everyone drove like you a lot of the current problems wouldn't exist. All you can do is lead by example, even if your students on the road are rude and dangerous
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Old 11-13-2008, 01:31 PM   #40
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My absolute best was 39.9247 mpg. That WAS hypermiling. Drafting as many 18 wheelers and putting it in neutral and shutting the motor off and coasting when I knew I was going to be coming to a stop. Its only rated to get 35 highway and we all know how they fudge the actual numbers. So 39 rounded to 40 is all MY yaris is going to get...period. I do not believe and will never believe that anyone gets 45-50 on a flat open road with all highway miles. 40 in the city is rediculous. I live near Elizabeth City North Carolina, so if anyone wants to prove me wrong...come show me.
The only true and accurate way is to run all the gas out till it cuts off and empty. Then put in 5 gallons from a spare tank and drive till empty and cuts off. Anyone want to prove me wrong?
I have the car, gas, and gas tank.
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:16 PM   #41
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Snaks, for your case, please make a new thread.

List your car ie..auto/manual....scanguage....how you drive, all that stuff.

Give us a typical drive from point A to point B. Describe most of it.


Lets see if we all can help tweak it.
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Old 11-13-2008, 03:48 PM   #42
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My absolute best was 39.9247 mpg. That WAS hypermiling. Drafting as many 18 wheelers and putting it in neutral and shutting the motor off and coasting when I knew I was going to be coming to a stop. Its only rated to get 35 highway and we all know how they fudge the actual numbers. So 39 rounded to 40 is all MY yaris is going to get...period. I do not believe and will never believe that anyone gets 45-50 on a flat open road with all highway miles. 40 in the city is rediculous. I live near Elizabeth City North Carolina, so if anyone wants to prove me wrong...come show me.
The only true and accurate way is to run all the gas out till it cuts off and empty. Then put in 5 gallons from a spare tank and drive till empty and cuts off. Anyone want to prove me wrong?
I have the car, gas, and gas tank.
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Tampa is a busy city near my school, and I do not lie in my calculations. You should look at my last couple of tanks... Usually pull 45 in the city. Coming home today I did almost 49 MPG, but it is only a 10 mile one way from school to the apartment. Oh, and Florida is as flat as a 10 year-old's chest, and I have easily gotten over 50 on the highways... that is with no tricks, just driving slower. Oh, and I will take the offer, but will drive in reverse the whole week to make the MPG numbers more believable.

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Old 11-13-2008, 03:53 PM   #43
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I know exactly what you mean, but maybe think of it this way. Those bad drivers will be wasting resources whether you conserve or not. So you're offsetting their waste.. at least a little bit.

People will whine and complain about anything, but never change their behaviour to come to a solution. If everyone drove like you a lot of the current problems wouldn't exist. All you can do is lead by example, even if your students on the road are rude and dangerous
This sounds like much of the apathetic Americans of today. They want to save the world, but do not want to lift a finger (exception to change the channel). They want to help the disabled, but only do so with cash. They would look the other way if a disabled individual wanted to be their friend. We all want to, but only a few do.

Oh, and I feel like the number of people conservatively driving is increasing, but some people will never change, so problems will always exist...

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Old 11-13-2008, 04:46 PM   #44
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500snaks. I’m near Raleigh and make a few trips to the Outer banks every year traveling on 64. I’m no pro hypermiler but am getting 44 MPG tanks with my commute: country rolling roads, highway and city.. Do you perhaps have a boat and go fishing? Maybe we can trade!
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:41 PM   #45
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Sure, with cheap(er) gas it's certainly more tempting to put your foot down more than before, I'm not gonna lie and say I don't do it, I do tend to drive faster on the highway than back in August, but not thaat much. But, I also still use whatever fuel-stretching techniques I can, coasting to red lights/tolls, DFCO, etc, so my average mileage is maybe just 1.5MPG worse than my absolute best, and far better than before I tried saving any fuel at all
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Old 11-14-2008, 09:59 AM   #46
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I have an auto tranny and I drive 98.5 miles round trip on all open highway to work 4 times a week. Thats nearly 400 miles a week just going to work.
Its all country highway miles.
The yaris has 13k miles.
38lb of air in tires.
Driving 50 mph/5 under speed limit.
Coasting to stops in neutral with the engine cut off.
No a/c used.
No defroster used.
Mid grade fuel.
Air filter changed at 10k miles.
Oil changed every 3k miles by the dealer.
I feel like the car is running perfectly.
It may be true for others, all I'm saying is that I cannot get any more than 40 mpg.( Thats 5 mpg MORE than stated on the sticker). And I am sorry, I just don't believe that 45-50 is attainable with NO modifications to the car.
Don't get me wrong...I am VERY satisfied with 40 milking it and 36-37 normal driving.
Someone please show me that it IS possible.
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Old 11-14-2008, 10:05 AM   #47
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500snaks. I’m near Raleigh and make a few trips to the Outer banks every year traveling on 64. I’m no pro hypermiler but am getting 44 MPG tanks with my commute: country rolling roads, highway and city.. Do you perhaps have a boat and go fishing? Maybe we can trade!
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Tampa is a busy city near my school, and I do not lie in my calculations. You should look at my last couple of tanks... Usually pull 45 in the city. Coming home today I did almost 49 MPG, but it is only a 10 mile one way from school to the apartment. Oh, and Florida is as flat as a 10 year-old's chest, and I have easily gotten over 50 on the highways... that is with no tricks, just driving slower. Oh, and I will take the offer, but will drive in reverse the whole week to make the MPG numbers more believable.

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Woody: I am about 45-60 minutes from the obx. Let me know when you come this way.

Drummerboy: Do the run out and refill method and see if thats still an accurate number. Maybe you are not re-filling to the same level and therefore throwing the numbers off.
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Old 11-14-2008, 10:12 AM   #48
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I know exactly what you mean, but maybe think of it this way. Those bad drivers will be wasting resources whether you conserve or not. So you're offsetting their waste.. at least a little bit.

People will whine and complain about anything, but never change their behaviour to come to a solution. If everyone drove like you a lot of the current problems wouldn't exist. All you can do is lead by example, even if your students on the road are rude and dangerous
My other vehicle is an 04 dodge ram SRT10, 500 hp, V10, 505ci(8.3 L) and gets 9 city and 11 hwy on premiun only. Is that what you are refering to?
Am I offsetting my wastefulness by driving my yaris?

I changed my behaviour by buying and driving the yaris to commute to work.
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Old 11-14-2008, 11:52 AM   #49
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I have an auto tranny and I drive 98.5 miles round trip on all open highway to work 4 times a week. Thats nearly 400 miles a week just going to work.
Its all country highway miles.
The yaris has 13k miles.
38lb of air in tires.
Driving 50 mph/5 under speed limit.
Coasting to stops in neutral with the engine cut off.
No a/c used.
No defroster used.
Mid grade fuel.
Air filter changed at 10k miles.
Oil changed every 3k miles by the dealer.
I feel like the car is running perfectly.
It may be true for others, all I'm saying is that I cannot get any more than 40 mpg.( Thats 5 mpg MORE than stated on the sticker). And I am sorry, I just don't believe that 45-50 is attainable with NO modifications to the car.
Don't get me wrong...I am VERY satisfied with 40 milking it and 36-37 normal driving.
Someone please show me that it IS possible.
Based on this information... You should be getting over 50 because that is what I would get in the same car doing the same thing. YOU do not need the mid grade fuel... it is useless if your car calls for regular. Oh, and the manual for our vehicle calls for oil changes every 5000, or at least mine does...

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Old 11-14-2008, 09:39 PM   #50
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I don't hardly lately, since the gas price are drops dramatically. I drive hard, speeding alot, and you know what i feel good about it.
And last time i got 33mpg instead of around 40mpg+.
But still the weather got cold now, love the winter time. Hope there is snow this year in GA.
Well anyway i hope the gas is not going back up at 5 dollars a gallon again, or else i feel very old in my yaris.
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funny thing is... I don't care about the price... I only care about the mpg's. I'll be paying for gas regardless of it being .99/gallon or 9.9/gallon. The only thing that will change is how much I drive, and if I have to wake up a tiny bit earlier and pay $30 a month to get a bus pass.

I'm still surprised I haven't seen $5 at the pumps yet... back in 03 I figured we'd have seen that by now.... Came close last summer.
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Old 11-14-2008, 09:55 PM   #51
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funny thing is... I don't care about the price... I only care about the mpg's. I'll be paying for gas regardless of it being .99/gallon or 9.9/gallon. The only thing that will change is how much I drive, and if I have to wake up a tiny bit earlier and pay $30 a month to get a bus pass.

I'm still surprised I haven't seen $5 at the pumps yet... back in 03 I figured we'd have seen that by now.... Came close last summer.
This is the mentality I wish everyone had... They seem to think lower prices mean they are not doing as bad by driving more and carelessly. Last time I checked... we do not have an unlimited supply of this stuff. They should find out who the wasteful ones are, and make their future children walk when we run out of gas...

Oh, and 5$ gas... it will be here sooner than we all think.

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Old 11-18-2008, 10:56 PM   #52
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Modified DFCO. Currently, averaging 43 MPG in the commute, I've started shifting up under light throttle at the maximum RPM I will be at when my cruise control is engaged. When I've shifted into 5th I just hit resume on the cruise and let Rostra control the acceleration rate from there on up. All the speed trap cops on my commute know I'm using cruise religiously at just look disgusted on the slow days. When they pull in behind they quickly turn off looking for a bigger fish. When I see that red light 1/8 mile away I time my brake tap (disengage cruise) so that I haven't dropped below 30 when the light goes back green. Above 30 MPG Rostra will resume and accelerate the car back up to the posted limit without ever having used the brakes, clutch, or shifter. I find it relaxing. Any more, almost all tickets are getting close to $200. The local governments here have lost so much sales tax that it seems like they spend whats left of their money for more red light cameras both on the interstates and at red lights. The local sherrifs are also fond of their roving camera vans placed where ever they can collect a fine. What's better than cheating Wall Street oil speculators? Cheating greedy self serving governments. Economy requires the starving of ALL parasites and vermin.
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:11 PM   #53
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Drummerboy: Do the run out and refill method and see if thats still an accurate number. Maybe you are not re-filling to the same level and therefore throwing the numbers off.
The run out method would be more true, but is bad for your fuel pump because running out of gas causes this to overheat. If this is the method you are using, I would suggest changing the ways...

It is possible that I am not refilling to the same levels, but based on all of the tanks I have filled and the various gas stations I have been to over time, systematic and random error would likely be accounted for over time. Besides, my numbers cannot be off by very much... even with my current methodology.

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Old 11-19-2008, 02:04 AM   #54
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i noticed that my gas mileage has gone down to about 33 instead of 36 to 37. i remote start let warm up longer and drive harder these days too. i am glad gas is down below $2.00 here in IL.
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