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Old 01-29-2010, 02:53 PM   #1
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So you are saying that people who drive safe and follow the law is the same thing as hypermiling?
The similarities are striking, really.
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Old 01-29-2010, 05:16 PM   #2
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The similarities are striking, really.
Sorry....not even close.

hypermiling vs normal driver

50 psi vs. 32 psi
turning off the engine at red lights vs not doing it
taking out seats, spare tire, jack vs not doing it
not using ac when it's 100+ outside vs using the ac
driving 15 miles below speed limit vs driving the speed limit

Very different........
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:09 PM   #3
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Too funny. I actually was doing the same thing in my first couple of days ownership.

Tranny damage - no.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:51 PM   #4
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refilled new 2010 3 door with automatic yesterday and it only got 32.86 miles to gallon thanks to temps between < 10 to 15 above . We use studded tires filled near 36 p.s.i.. Checked tires early noon and tires dropped to about 33 p.s.i.. The average temp was around 20 . The ECO-METER read 33.3 . There were times when needed to let car warm up to defrost windows . Seems like the ECO-METER doesn't take account for all the gas used when idling .

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Old 02-07-2010, 07:19 PM   #5
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a bunch of people on this forum are so sensitive to gas mileage that they use common hypermiling techiques without even realizing it. It has just become their," old driving habits."

Loren always has good advice, and it really does become a game. Even people like myself, who don't go all out crazy with gas mileage, still use more than a few of them without really thinking. From not revving about 2000 rpms, to accelerating as slow as possible, and keeping the car in gear coasting as much as possible to use DFCO. My second tank of gas, when I was trying to get great gas mileage because gas was over $4 a gallon, I achieved 44 mpg. I usually get around 38 mpg now, "without trying." I say that knowing the way I drive is nowhere near normal.

Getting great gas mileage is a learned skill, and takes time and dedication, like anything else worth learning.

Matching the EPA's numbers means you are getting good mileage. Most people don't even do that.
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:40 PM   #6
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I've only reached 41MPG once I never go over 30MPG
Why?
-90% city
-Lots lots of hills
-Always stop and go traffic
-Average temp 85-90*F
-I drive it like I stole it

And I still love my Yaris even when I get that horrible MPG. Why?
-Mom: FJ Cruiser ---> Gas sucking thing
-Dad: BMW 645 ---> 21 on higway / BMW Z3 ---> 8-10MPG <---

And I still get to rub in their faces that "I drive a slightly modified +/-30MPG car"
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:37 PM   #7
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I've only reached 41MPG once I never go over 30MPG
Why?
-90% city
-Lots lots of hills
-Always stop and go traffic
-Average temp 85-90*F
-I drive it like I stole it

And I still love my Yaris even when I get that horrible MPG. Why?
-Mom: FJ Cruiser ---> Gas sucking thing
-Dad: BMW 645 ---> 21 on higway / BMW Z3 ---> 8-10MPG <---

And I still get to rub in their faces that "I drive a slightly modified +/-30MPG car"
Actually your temp of 85-90 is helping your mpg.
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Old 02-17-2010, 01:01 PM   #8
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I just got my Yaris a few days ago, a 2008 Yaris 3dr HB auto and on my first real fill-up, I averaged 33.75 MPG. I'm not new to hypermiling but there was still a big difference going from my 95 Civic to the Yaris. When I was driving the Civic which was rated for 26 MPG, I averaged 33 MPG.

Most of the "professional" reviews I read claimed the Yaris was slow but it felt faster than my Civic which has more HP and torque, especially going uphill. I'm still getting used to the accelerator since all the newer cars have a more sensitive gas pedal than my aging Civic. I don't recall seeing an RPM readout unless people are just using their scangauge. The automatic shifting is also more distinct but I'm gradually getting used to it. I commute over 500 miles a week, so I'll get used to it fast. :)
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Old 03-08-2010, 11:14 PM   #9
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I see an awful lot of discussion of "winter gas". But winter formulations average only about 1.7% lower in BTU content than summer. In fact, the variations within different winter and different summer formulations is *greater* than the difference between average winter and summer formulations.

The fact of the matter is that cold weather kills fuel economy, for obvious reasons.
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