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07-14-2011, 05:34 PM | #37 | |
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With Sonic, GM Stands Automaking on Its Head
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I give GM credit for being the only ones to build a sub-compact in the US. Hopefully though, the cost cutting doesn't prove troublesome. I'm still confident that the Sonic will prove to be a very good car, light years ahead of Aveo. |
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07-14-2011, 10:40 PM | #38 | |
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07-14-2011, 10:56 PM | #39 | |
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You really think there's not much difference? The difference is greater than any typical complete redesign. Why? Because they are two cars built by two different companies. One by Deawoo, and one by GM. Comparing the Aveo to the Sonic is about the same as comparing the Aveo to the Yaris. Yup, that different. Does this look like the Aveo? |
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07-15-2011, 07:31 AM | #40 |
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You actually find this car appealing? Yuk! It's uglier than the new Vitz.
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07-15-2011, 08:20 AM | #41 | |
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Just saying that you gotta appreciate how big of an improvement this car is over the Aveo, the worst car of the last 10 years. |
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07-15-2011, 11:23 AM | #42 |
definitely looks like an improvement over the Aveo.
Not going to be trading in anytime soon, but it'll be interesting to see how the Sonic does at market... and what people think once the actual car can be tested in the real world |
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07-15-2011, 12:04 PM | #43 |
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If it's any indication though, I think the Ford Fiesta and the Focus will have it beat. I've read in Motor Trend that Ford WILL be releasing a souped up version of the Fiesta, putting down 180hp I believe. The Focus will obviously be a bit more.
Looks like the Yaris is once again being outdone by other companies who are updating their subcompacts and boosting power/handling. Such a shame on Toyotas part in my opinion. Here's some proof and pics of the Fiesta ST http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...a-st-spy-shots
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07-15-2011, 12:22 PM | #44 |
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So is this the realization of the "beat" and "spark" concepts that have been blowing around since 2008-ish? Or is that still going to happen everywhere but the US?
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07-16-2011, 12:57 AM | #45 |
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it's still the aveo body that screams poor choices.....at least to me...and I hate how there is so much trickle down and not enough differentiation between the models....they all share far too many similar aspects...the center instrumentation/radio panels same as the malibu and the cruze... just my .02
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07-16-2011, 01:57 AM | #46 |
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i saw a white hatch parked in my neighbor's driveway yesterday. haven't had a chance to ask him about it yet, but it looked pretty nice from a short distance.
i would definately drive one(manual with the turbo, please)! |
07-19-2011, 03:16 PM | #47 | |
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07-19-2011, 05:20 PM | #48 | ||
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No aspect of either car is appealing to me. No, wait there is one good thing about them; they make the Yaris look sooo much better in comparison!
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07-21-2011, 01:15 PM | #49 |
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Why do I keep seeing pictures of the interior of the sonic with a 6 speed manual when it will not be available with such?
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07-21-2011, 01:22 PM | #50 |
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I have to admit that GM is at least trying to bring something to the market. I would need to see the hatch in person however I know I don't care for the sedan. It should make a HUGE difference moving away from Daewoo.
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all i have to say is factory forced induction = win.
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Love the inside, and hope it does well. But it's still butt ugly, just like the Aveo.
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