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Old 04-16-2007, 01:18 AM   #1
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All of that bickering, for us to relize we are argueing about the same thing
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:08 AM   #2
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I am saying in this one case, only...
maybe if I start from where I started from you will understand my logic
I wanted to cram the widest tire I could and keep as close to the stock rolling diameter as possible... I came up with the 225/50R15

Then I started from there doing my measuring, checking clearance with stocks. At the time all I could get my hands on with a +38 offset was a 7in wheel so that is what I got. But as I said before, since all my math is to compensate for the tire rather than the width of the wheel that is how I arived with my +38, and how it works the same with a 7 and 8 inch wheel.
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Old 04-16-2007, 10:36 AM   #3
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Nimble, I'm sorry, but please re-read my post, look especially at the first picture, and visualize the relationship between the offset and the outside of the tires as the rim's width changes.

I wish I was any good at Flash or 3D graphics to make a demonstration, but I'm not
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:42 AM   #4
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I'm quoting myself again....well, because I'm right. Think about it. You cannot, I repeat CANNOT have a wider wheel with the same offset as a smaller wheel sit in the same place in the wheel well. Why have offsets at all then? So a 15x5 ET 38 would sit in the same place as said 15x8 ET 38? That's what your reasoning suggests.
that is why I put the word TIRE in all caps when I made my previous statments.... We are not all dumb here Nimble we do know that a 8 inch wheel is 1 inch (aprox 26mm) wider than a 7 inch wider wheel. I am talking about position of the tread of the tire will be unchanged, if you take the exact same tire and put it on the two wheels listed above in your post

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Nimble, I'm sorry, but please re-read my post, look especially at the first picture, and visualize the relationship between the offset and the outside of the tires as the rim's width changes.

I wish I was any good at Flash or 3D graphics to make a demonstration, but I'm not
Lets make a Video Thomas I'll bring the rubber(s)
<---aka the "tire condom"
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:49 AM   #5
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Well no one gives a crap where the TIRE is because it will be too far inside the wheel on any wheel that's one inch larger than the wheel said tire was meant for. Who cares if the tire fits the wheel that's wider, if said wheel is too close to the shock/strut now? You cannot just look at one without the other.
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:00 PM   #6
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Well no one gives a crap where the TIRE is because it will be too far inside the wheel on any wheel that's one inch larger than the wheel said tire was meant for. Who cares if the tire fits the wheel that's wider, if said wheel is too close to the shock/strut now? You cannot just look at one without the other.
OK Nible lets do a little Math here based on your logic, as stated above and based on my set up, that everyone knows so well.

15x7 +38
225/50R15 tire

now you are saying who gives a crap about the tire... if I would not have "gave a crap" I would have gone with +42 or +45 with that 7 in wide wheel when doing my math

skip to an 8 in wheel also doing the math I would have came up with the same offsets

lets say I put said tire on from above with the higher offset, and get all pissed off because I am rubbing my tire like crazy on my strut, yeah I am going to be pissed

a 225/50VR15 has a tread width of 8.9 inches therefor why my math was for the width of the tire not the wheel, I know I have explaned this a few times... Are you just trying to get in an Agrument with us Nimble?
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:46 PM   #7
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your argument makes no sense. not to metion your yaris isn't lowered, so that means little to us with lowered cars. All I was saying was who cares about the tire size? I'm talking about what the wheel does, does not do when increasing the width. And yes, your 225 tire WILL sit in a different spot with a 15x7 vs 15x8 both ET38. Not a big difference, but a difference nonetheless.
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:02 PM   #8
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Alright fellas I am still going for 15x8, the main reason i am going with 15x8 wheels, just like the look. These wheels will not be my everyday wheel. This is going to be a lot more difficult then i thought, but you guys made one thing clear its going to take some money and a lot of work to get this done, I guess i have to go with a company that can accomodate what i need, but i will definitely have to save up for the work wheels, instead of the axxis Oldskools. this topic is still open for discussion, believe me i am reading every post and taking in the info. This is all good stuff It will definitely help me in my journey for the look i am going for.

15x8 on a yaris THAT IS BADAZZ, at least in my mind :)
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:39 AM   #9
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16x8 +25 front
16x8 +15 rear
195/45/16 tires
no rubbing
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I have the same wheels in 15x8, let me know if you want.
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Old 04-17-2007, 02:54 AM   #10
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16x8 +25 front
16x8 +15 rear
195/45/16 tires
no rubbing
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I have the same wheels in 15x8, let me know if you want.
I dont see how thats not going to rub? bagged?
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Old 04-17-2007, 03:02 AM   #11
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I dont see how thats not going to rub? bagged?
no bags, coilovers
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:00 AM   #12
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16x8 +25 front
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I have the same wheels in 15x8, let me know if you want.
dood that looks helle sick
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Old 04-17-2007, 01:58 PM   #13
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16x8 +25 front
16x8 +15 rear
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I have the same wheels in 15x8, let me know if you want.
yeah, me likie
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Old 05-01-2007, 05:05 AM   #14
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16x8 +25 front
16x8 +15 rear
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I have the same wheels in 15x8, let me know if you want.

that's gangsta!!!
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:43 PM   #15
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16x8 +25 front
16x8 +15 rear
195/45/16 tires
no rubbing
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I have the same wheels in 15x8, let me know if you want.

nice rims...anybody selling that??..website maybe.
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Old 06-15-2007, 06:39 AM   #16
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nice rims...anybody selling that??..website maybe.
www.ame-wheels.com

Wheel model is Shallen LX

try contacting one of our sponsors for pricing, or you can purchase mine, they're in like new condition with tires. I'm local to El Monte. There's also a dealer for them new in El Monte called A-Spec Products.
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www.ame-wheels.com

Wheel model is Shallen LX

try contacting one of our sponsors for pricing, or you can purchase mine, they're in like new condition with tires. I'm local to El Monte. There's also a dealer for them new in El Monte called A-Spec Products.

thanks..that really helps.
since i'm buying spring and rims as early as next week.
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