13's ?

[kurokoma-kun]

You finally got em! I thought reznunt had beat you to it.

They look fantastic! also interested in your impressions of handling.

[brickhardmeat]

all I can find is Toyo, Federal and Cooper

[reznunt]

Originally Posted by brickhardmeat

all I can find is Toyo, Federal and Cooper

dunlop, nankang, sumitomo also have 205-60-13.

[reznunt]

Originally Posted by kurokoma-kun

You finally got em! I thought reznunt had beat you to it.

They look fantastic! also interested in your impressions of handling.

nope, he was the pioneer! that's why i gave credit where credit is due, in the first line of my pic post.

[reznunt]

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

x2.

I wish someone made a tire in this size that was a little more agressive (e.g. Yokohama AVS ES100s or such).

x3. like i said, it's either really cheap shit or race rubber, not a lot of selection in between.

[brickhardmeat]

well, if I end up with a set of 13's I'll probably get the federals 'cuz that's how i roll

don't want to destroy my white trash image

[reznunt]

Originally Posted by brickhardmeat

well, if I end up with a set of 13's I'll probably get the federals 'cuz that's how i roll

don't want to destroy my white trash image

i'll do you one better and get some tire pens and make that federal logo really stand out!

[reznunt]

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

I can't find any Dunlops in 205/60/13. I found the Sumitomos. I wouldn't put a set of Nankangs on any wheel I owned. I owned a set of them and they were horrible.

i can't find them either, weird. here's a pic of them in 205-60-13:

[reznunt]

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

FYI:

VPDs on special at Honda-Tech: http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2070757

VPDs in multiple colors: http://www.exospeed.com/category.php?id=427

they're $20 cheaper here , plus no tax!

[brickhardmeat]

Originally Posted by reznunt

i'll do you one better and get some tire pens and make that federal logo really stand out!

yeah ,well, of course

[reznunt]

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

Trust me -- if I had the cash now, I'd buy them at your "store."

They only thing I'd worry about is sidewall flex. With a nice, sticky, street tire, the sidewalls are still pretty stiff. On the currently available 205-60-13s, I'm afraid they're not high performance enough (minus the R compounds) for my liking. I've got Yokohama AVS ES100s in a 205-50-16 now and they're great. I don't mind our 205-50-15 Falken Ziex 15s either.

BTW, they don't seem to make the G/T Qualifier in that size anymore. http://dunloptires.com/dunlop/displa...ea=Performance

EDIT: Falken Ziex 502 in 205-60-13. I wonder if they're available in the US?:
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.p...=m4b0s375p2243

for the cooper cobras, the sidewall flex isn't much of an issue compared to the stickiness... or lack of stickiness. these tires weren't meant for anything but getting groceries. i wonder what's less sticky, these cobras or cold ra1's.

i saw those 502's also but i couldn't find them online.

[03Z33]

Handling is really nice with the RA1's and for me they are cheap enough and last long enough to use daily. If I was going to track these I'd probably get some Hoosiers or Kumho R-Compounds or some Yokohama race slicks. The nice thing about 13's is you can always find slightly used race tires for cheap since a lot of the pro racers and autocrossers run this sizing and they change tires after every few track days.

[reznunt]

Originally Posted by 03Z33

Handling is really nice with the RA1's and for me they are cheap enough and last long enough to use daily. If I was going to track these I'd probably get some Hoosiers or Kumho R-Compounds or some Yokohama race slicks. The nice thing about 13's is you can always find slightly used race tires for cheap since a lot of the pro racers and autocrossers run this sizing and they change tires after every few track days.

since you are in the circle, got any good sources for race takeoffs? i want some a048's!

[03Z33]

I wouldn't really call those "race tires" most people running A048 are using them up on street/weekend track cars or using them as rain tires for amateur races. If you hangout at the track enough or at the race prep shops your bound to come up with some barely used slicks off some formula cars... I'll let you know next time I find a set

[reznunt]

Originally Posted by 03Z33

I wouldn't really call those "race tires" most people running A048 are using them up on street/weekend track cars or using them as rain tires for amateur races. If you hangout at the track enough or at the race prep shops your bound to come up with some barely used slicks off some formula cars... I'll let you know next time I find a set

ya, that's what i was looking for, take-offs from a weekend autocrosser that i could possibly use on the street. i have no use for full slicks. but let me know if you see anything that's streetable! tia

[Imagine]

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

While they might not be race tires, they probably wouldn't be a good choice for me since it's like 50 degrees here in the mornings durring the summer and in the fall, it only gets into the upper 50s. I simply wish Yokohama made the AVS ES100s in that size. Then again, if I could sell my Rays wheels, I might still pick up a set with the Coopers or the Sumitomos. As I mentioned, my Cooper Cobra GTs were a decent daily driver tire.

You must drive like a NUT!

[Imagine]

I guess that's probably why most people have spare wheels for AutoX. It's hard to find a good mix of long lasting/sporty tires.

[2006fronty]

I know I'm bringing this thread back from the dead lol. Any updates on the Lenso VPD wheels 03Z33? I wouldn't mind getting a set since they're pretty cheap. Do you have any more pictures of them on the Yaris? Reznunt's pics don't show up anymore This is the only other pic I can find