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09-06-2012, 03:07 PM | #55 | |
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The last question I have is how do the bags work like springs? Do they compress? If so do you have to refill the bags after big bumps? If they don't compress, how is there any compression and rebound? |
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09-06-2012, 05:02 PM | #56 |
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Think of the airbag as an accordion-style balloon with really thick walls. The "balloon" is attached at the top and bottom perches where the spring would normally sit. Put air into it and the bag expands vertically. Remove air from it and it compresses. Since the air in the bag doesn't escape on its own, your car will always remain at the same ride height depending on amount of air inside. As for going over bumps, you do not need to refill them because the air inside the bag does not go anywhere when the bag compresses over bumps. Like a balloon, the airbag will expand outward slightly under compression, but return to its normal state after going over the bump.
@CTScott - I could measure it this weekend if you want. What part do you want me to measure? |
09-06-2012, 05:16 PM | #57 | |
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09-06-2012, 05:17 PM | #58 |
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I see perfect thanks.
I was aware of their shape and how they sat in the unit thats why I was unsure of how they react to bumps. It would be brutal if you filled them and they sat like big rocks and didnt move lol. Thats pretty cushy I imagine must be nice for a daily. Under extreme pressure can the bags rupture? Assuming you would probably have to do Dukes of Hazard stunts to put that much pressure on them lol |
09-06-2012, 05:22 PM | #59 |
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Rupture? Definitely.
That's why a warning is given for any bag install - NEVER drive when bag is maxed out or when bag has no air at all. Airbag like virginity, one prick all gone. |
09-06-2012, 05:23 PM | #60 |
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Wow thats good to know what about debris? Can it gouge/pop bags?
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09-06-2012, 05:29 PM | #61 |
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Well, actually the wall of the bag is pretty tough and able to withstand any road debris. You would have to deliberately puncture it to make a hole.
@CTScott - I'll see what I can do. |
09-06-2012, 05:48 PM | #62 |
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Good info. Thanks
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09-08-2012, 11:54 AM | #63 |
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sorry havent been checking much the past few days. been busy
my kit has a beveled rear bag (like posted above) and the fronts have a slimmer sleeve like bag. like the bag on the front strurts seen on this scion kit http://bagriders.com/modlab/products...ANAGEMENT.html as far as bag material: like already said its pretty heavy duty, much like the bags you would see on semi trucks or city buses. only they are much smaller, and those bags go for 100's of thousands of miles normally without problems. i really feel like that if i ever have a leak in my system it wont be from one of the bags. *knock on wood* @CTScott: for my max ride height the fronts probably put the car at the same height it was on Micro Image springs. the rear when maxed out probably has almost 2 feet of lift above the wheel haha. but like has been said it is NOT suggested to drive around for long periods of time with the bags maxed out. the ride is VERY VERY hard and could cause ruptured bags. thanks yarisugi for chiming in also with his bagged knowledge and experience. thanks for answering the question about how the bags act as the springs. http://www.facebook.com/events/409623035736058/ i will be at this event in the cleveland, OH area. if anyone wants to check it out in person Last edited by DINOeggxo; 09-08-2012 at 05:13 PM. Reason: adding link |
09-10-2012, 01:52 AM | #64 |
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@CTScott - Sorry, I couldn't measure from strut bolt to tower. Why? Because the
aigbags are filled with air, blocking my tape measure. So I measure it another way. I measured vertically from hub center to fender edge. I suppose this would be a good reference point regardless of tire/wheel size. Front measured 16 inches and rear was 17-1/2 inches. Hope this helps. The picture is of the suspension at its highest point. |
09-10-2012, 06:58 AM | #65 |
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^ Actually that is perfect. I am trying to figure out for Crashy 2 if I can use airbags to allow me to transition between plowing height and driving height.
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09-10-2012, 09:42 PM | #66 |
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oh wow, it's nice to see this stickied.
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09-10-2012, 10:07 PM | #67 |
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im torn between getting this airride kit or do an upgrade to a better coilover set :P
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09-11-2012, 02:25 PM | #68 | |
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The adjustability and looks when slammed is awesome. I love dinoeggs car, driving it is real fun too. |
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09-12-2012, 01:25 AM | #69 |
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Yeah ... I'm liking the idea that you can slam the car all the way down when parking :)
Any update on the price Sasquatch ? |
09-12-2012, 01:29 AM | #70 |
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Noooooo! Don't do it!
Save your money, buy a house. :) |
09-13-2012, 10:28 AM | #71 | |
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The problem is that the manufacturer that made dinoeggs doesn't really want to sell Just struts as they make some kits too. But the rest of the kit is expensive and kinda crappy for how much you pay. So our dealer is tryin to get them to sell just the struts because he would be able to supply a wider variety of management options amd make a better kit for less money and be able to give you great after sale customer service if needed. I'm either case the struts will likely remain as "built to order" because most companies see no market in the yaris scene. He'll air lift is one of the largest companies in the game and they don't even make mk1 VW front struts for the same reason. Hopefully we will hear soon |
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09-20-2012, 10:30 PM | #72 |
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I would be down for a group buy
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