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01-23-2011, 11:41 AM | #55 |
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Doesn't it take the same amount of energy to accelerate the car from 0 to 60 or whatever no matter how fast or slow that acceleration happens? And aren't motors a little more efficient in the rpm range where the torque is highest? And finally, isn't your top efficiency at the lowest speed where you can be in your highest gear? So....wouldn't relatively quick acceleration up to 40mph or wherever you drop into 4th or 5th (depending) be the best? I've heard 3/4 ths of the throttle mentioned before.
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01-23-2011, 06:16 PM | #56 |
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I also have a station close to me with ethanol free gas. I dont think the extra few MPG will be enough to offset the higher price. I dont remember for sure but I believe ethanol free gas here runs 30-40 cents higher per gallon
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10-31-2016, 11:16 PM | #57 | |
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11-01-2016, 10:43 AM | #58 | |
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11-01-2016, 10:47 AM | #59 | |
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you should see what they do down here in asia...pretty crazy.. Sent from my SM-J710F using Tapatalk
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11-01-2016, 02:28 PM | #60 |
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No reprogrammed ECU? No funny gasoline? ;-)
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11-02-2016, 02:41 AM | #61 | |
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all the ecu were sold out except the cheapest ecu which was early timing advance...im waiting for 60mm throttle body to arrive so i can add fuel injection ecu... the complete piggy back and standalone is way too expensive...😣😣😣 Sent from my SM-J710F using Tapatalk
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11-02-2016, 08:19 AM | #62 | |
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No it doesnt. Physics alone will tell you that you need more force to accelerate a body with the same mass faster. F=m(a) Higher a, bigger F. W=F(d) Work is directly proportional to Force, hence higher a, more Work. Work is practically energy, so theres your answer. Sent from my G9208SS using Tapatalk |
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11-09-2016, 10:22 PM | #63 | |
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If you have a heavy object and you want it to go X mph in a hurry it takes multiple X time more energy to get it there. If you have to push a car you can lean on it and get it rolling and then walk it forward . Or if your in a hurry and push real hard to get it going NOW it works too but takes alot more energy to do it that way. Its heavy and it doesnt wanna move so it take effort to get it going, much how much effort depends how power you throw at it. |
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11-10-2016, 07:41 AM | #64 |
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When it comes mileage you can't beat a manual gear box. You can throw it into neutral and glide, or keep it in your tallest gear for DFCO, or even just engine brake every chance you get with DFCO to save gas. Of course idle can typically run lower in neutral at a stop with a manual. All of these things mean you have to think preemptively. My wife learned to drive a stick on the Yaris a year ago, and one of the comments she made after getting used to it was that you really tend to think ahead a lot more. As an avid cyclist and motorcyclist I can say that thinking ahead and reacting preemptively is definitely the safer way to go anyway
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11-10-2016, 01:18 PM | #65 |
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That would be Trillian?
Unfortunately my wife refuses to learn to drive a manual, so I'm stuck with an automatic. I normally drive the Yaris, and she drives our other car, a Toyota Aurion (that's the V6 Camry here in Australia). It has a long term fuel average display (digital) and a string of LEDs as an instant fuel usage display. At least that has taught her to be a bit more gentle on the throttle....
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11-10-2016, 02:54 PM | #66 |
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I often coast in neutral on an auto gearbox. Legality be damned.
Ha ha, good one! Having two heads means he can avoid accidents by looking two different directions at the same time. Just as long as he doesn't switch on his Yaris' Infinite Improbability Drive Sent from my LG G2 with CM13 using Tapatalk |
11-10-2016, 03:24 PM | #67 |
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Have towel. Will travel.
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12-09-2016, 01:28 AM | #68 |
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I'm a little shocked by the claims in this thread about 30 MPG+ in city, and even 40/70. What?? Either I'm reading this wrong, or I've got quite a different setup.
Here is my situation:
dunno about hwy yet, nor have I calculated my own fill ups to compare with what Yaris thinks - haven't owned it long enough. But assuming the computer is even in the ball park, this is a far cry from what folks are claiming here, no? |
12-09-2016, 01:31 AM | #69 | |
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now about avg 10km with E85...sometimes more than 12km on the highway... Sent from my SM-J710F using Tapatalk
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12-09-2016, 03:04 AM | #70 | |
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Ethanols consumption is said to be 30% more than normal additional gasolines ! If so then your readings are not bad at all ! |
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12-09-2016, 09:57 AM | #71 |
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No, it's not E85 bio. It's just petrol (which apparently is mixed with maybe 10% ethanol around here). I run 85 octane because that is normal at this altitude. When I lived at sea level the lowest you could buy was 87. (Utah vs Seattle, WA) |
12-09-2016, 10:18 AM | #72 |
I know that back in the day when this forum was loaded with hyper-milers, many reported upwards of 46-48 mpg. Fifty was the holy grail. Again, that was by applying aggressive hyper-miler techniques.
I have always clocked between 30-33 mpg with my car. That's with over-sized wheels/tires and driving everywhere with a healthy pace. I'm sure I could get closer to 40 mpg with OEM wheels and by taking off my lead shoes. |
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