ABS and "!" lights are ON again! - Page 4 - Toyota Yaris Forums

Jem_hadar · 01-09-2009, 02:19 PM

^^ OK. So dropped by car in at lunch for them to disagnose.

And just got the call back saying they need to replace the wiring harness this time (so its NOT a sensor this time around).

Part will be in beg of next week.

Jem_hadar · 01-09-2009, 09:29 PM

Follow up comment:

So when I was talking to the parts guy afterwards, he mentioned that there are 161 wiring harnesses on backorder!

Jesus.

Looks like there are many with similar troubles as us (not just the ones posting in here)

I wonder if the US Yaris Hatchbacks/sedans are having the same kind of trouble as we Canadians are w/ this ABS sensor BS??

Jem

jambo101 · 01-10-2009, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PK198105

actually you are better of without ABS in winter..on any car.

Big +1 on that! seems on ice i can modulate a locked up wheel a lot better than a wheel that never stops turning.

Pars · 01-10-2009, 01:50 PM

Jem Hadar, I had the exact same experience. Had to back 4 times until they finally got it fixed. On the third visit, I was told to wait for a new harness and I finally got it fixed on the 4th visit (total cost was $750 for all 4 visit).

If anyone else if having this problem, it would be a good idea to have them check the harness first and get them to put it into writing if they say it's ok.

onizuka · 01-10-2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jambo101

Big +1 on that! seems on ice i can modulate a locked up wheel a lot better than a wheel that never stops turning.

Not having ABS can be subjectively better on performance but it's not a reason to lose it due to a malfunction. Afterall, some ppl paid extra to have ABS package in. And failing right after your warranty expiration makes total non-sense. Just like you don't want to say: "it's ok to have my A/C constantly breaking down, without A/C, I can get better fuel mileage".

jambo101 · 01-11-2009, 04:29 AM

I was only talking about the controllability of stopping on ice,for all other applications ABS works fine..

Maddman · 01-12-2009, 11:10 AM

Both the parking brake and the ABS light came on this weekend. Took it to the dealer today. They just called and told me that it's the driver rear speed sensor that has malfunctioned. The part is on back order so I have to drive around with no ABS until they get the part.

Bobby B · 01-17-2009, 07:06 PM

My wife's ABS and ! light came on and she the called the dealer on the day of warranty expiry...
ABS sensor - surprise!
I am hoping Toyota will cover it under warranty, less than 20k km and it WAS undercoated.
This definitely seems to be an issue here...

devinlamothe · 01-17-2009, 09:25 PM

Here's a funny story. My "!" and ABS lights disappeared, but this should have been stored as a trouble code in my cars computer.

I brought my car in for a maintenance the other day, I asked if they check trouble codes they said yes - well after I got my car back they said there were no codes showing? WTF. I never told them these lights went on until after the service. When I told the guy he looked surprised.

So I'm not sure what is going on here. What I do know is it has been a few weeks since this happened, and I've also been on the highway (about 800km trip) since this happened and the lights haven't shown up again.

Hopefully I got lucky because there is no way I am paying for this obvious defect.

Maddman · 01-19-2009, 02:15 PM

Mine went turned off 2 days ago. Still waiting for the part(s) to come in. I think that it happens when it's really cold out. We've had a huge cold snap last week and now it's not as cold the sensor is working again. I'm still going to get it fixed though

salmonz · 01-20-2009, 12:22 PM

So this morning my ABS and ! light went off too.

Brought the car to the dealership almost immediately. They scanned the car and the right rear ABS sensor is corroded and has to be replaced.

My car is a 2007 Toyota Yaris, 57000km. It's been really cold and slushy lately.

I asked the dealership to check the left one and they said they have to charge me $59. I gave them $1it, saying I won't wait for a computer to tell me something needs to be replaced when the tech can just look at it. My warranty is almost done and I'm not going to be on the hook for something that is defective from the beginning. They agreed to check the left one free of charge. They came back and the tech said it looked fine. They also said 1 out of 31 they've seen lately is on the left. I told them fine, just replace the right one. When the left one goes, I'll tell them about today and hold them to it that it should have been covered under warranty. I'm not paying $500 for something that should have been dealt with and fixed by Toyota.

They can't repair it today as 31 right rear sensors are on backorder. "31"!!!
There's definitely a problem with the Toyota Yaris's out there. There should be a recall for both left and right rear sensors.

Dave · 01-20-2009, 07:02 PM

This is nuts. Is there a Canadian equivalent to the NHTSA where these issues can be formally registered? Can we write to the Office of Consumer Affairs?

onizuka · 01-20-2009, 07:40 PM

The reason we won't get a recall is that the volume in Canada is so slim for Toyota to consider a recall. Also it only happens when and where it's cold, that's why you only hear it from us, the canadians. You don't see any americans from So-Cal complaining about that problem.

Dave · 01-20-2009, 10:29 PM

Maybe one of the affected posters could write in to the Toronto Star's Wheels section for advice on how to get Toyota moving on this issue.

This is clearly not an isolated incident, and seems to be popping up as people's warranties are about to expire. Attention from a newspaper may add a little more publicity to the issue, and motivate Toyota to come up with a solution for all Yaris owners. At the very least, they (Wheels columnists) may give some advice on who to talk to without getting a boilerplate email response or a brush-off at a dealership.

Website is www.wheels.ca. Check the "Columns & Advice" section for previous Q&A's, and the email address for writing in. I'm pretty sure it's just wheels (a t) thestar.ca. Applicable column is probably "Your Beef".

I'd do it myself, but my car's been fine so far *fingers crossed*.

devinlamothe · 01-21-2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

Maybe one of the affected posters could write in to the Toronto Star's Wheels section for advice on how to get Toyota moving on this issue.

This is clearly not an isolated incident, and seems to be popping up as people's warranties are about to expire. Attention from a newspaper may add a little more publicity to the issue, and motivate Toyota to come up with a solution for all Yaris owners. At the very least, they (Wheels columnists) may give some advice on who to talk to without getting a boilerplate email response or a brush-off at a dealership.

Website is www.wheels.ca. Check the "Columns & Advice" section for previous Q&A's, and the email address for writing in. I'm pretty sure it's just wheels (a t) thestar.ca. Applicable column is probably "Your Beef".

I'd do it myself, but my car's been fine so far *fingers crossed*.

I just sent something in and linked this thread as an example. Unfortunately for me, my "!" and ABS lights went on again after it got warmer out, and the roads were rather slushy. It went away again when it got colder (doesn't make sense).

This is absolutely ridiculous on Toyota's part. My confidence in them is slowly starting to diminish.

EDMR2 · 01-22-2009, 12:24 AM

If you don't want to fix it , can the code be erase so both of the lights comes off

Former_Neon · 01-22-2009, 11:22 PM

I started up my Yaris on Tuesday and the ABS and (!) lights were on. I took it to useless Whitby Toyota and, as usual, was treated with disdain. They told me they have to order the speed sensor part and they "don't know" when it'll be in.
To hell with them, I'm taking my business to a different Toyota.

By the way...is this the Toyota quality I've heard so much about? Just over a year of ownership and now this.

Pars · 01-24-2009, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDMR2

If you don't want to fix it , can the code be erase so both of the lights comes off

Nope. I asked the mechanic the same question, he said that he could turn off the abs light, but once I re-start the car, it'll do a start-up check and the lights would come back on.

I suppose opening up the dash and disconnecting the bulb would work. If anyone got pic on opening up the dash?

01-09-2009, 02:19 PM	#55
Jem_hadar MORDSITH View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Collingwood, ON Posts: 632	^^ OK. So dropped by car in at lunch for them to disagnose. And just got the call back saying they need to replace the wiring harness this time (so its NOT a sensor this time around). Part will be in beg of next week. __________________ 2007 Yaris Hatchback 5 Door LE, Manual, Package B, Bayou Blue Metallic

01-09-2009, 09:29 PM	#56
Jem_hadar MORDSITH View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Collingwood, ON Posts: 632	Follow up comment: So when I was talking to the parts guy afterwards, he mentioned that there are 161 wiring harnesses on backorder! Jesus. Looks like there are many with similar troubles as us (not just the ones posting in here) I wonder if the US Yaris Hatchbacks/sedans are having the same kind of trouble as we Canadians are w/ this ABS sensor BS?? Jem __________________ 2007 Yaris Hatchback 5 Door LE, Manual, Package B, Bayou Blue Metallic

01-17-2009, 07:06 PM	#62
Bobby B Car crazy Drives: 06 Yaris RS 06 CR-V Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: London, ON Posts: 5	Another one B!tes the Sensor My wife's ABS and ! light came on and she the called the dealer on the day of warranty expiry... ABS sensor - surprise! I am hoping Toyota will cover it under warranty, less than 20k km and it WAS undercoated. This definitely seems to be an issue here...

01-20-2009, 12:22 PM	#65
salmonz Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milton, ON, Canada Posts: 66	2007 Toyota Yaris So this morning my ABS and ! light went off too. Brought the car to the dealership almost immediately. They scanned the car and the right rear ABS sensor is corroded and has to be replaced. My car is a 2007 Toyota Yaris, 57000km. It's been really cold and slushy lately. I asked the dealership to check the left one and they said they have to charge me $59. I gave them $1it, saying I won't wait for a computer to tell me something needs to be replaced when the tech can just look at it. My warranty is almost done and I'm not going to be on the hook for something that is defective from the beginning. They agreed to check the left one free of charge. They came back and the tech said it looked fine. They also said 1 out of 31 they've seen lately is on the left. I told them fine, just replace the right one. When the left one goes, I'll tell them about today and hold them to it that it should have been covered under warranty. I'm not paying $500 for something that should have been dealt with and fixed by Toyota. They can't repair it today as 31 right rear sensors are on backorder. "31"!!! There's definitely a problem with the Toyota Yaris's out there. There should be a recall for both left and right rear sensors.

01-10-2009, 01:50 PM	#58
Pars Drives: 07 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 418	Jem Hadar, I had the exact same experience. Had to back 4 times until they finally got it fixed. On the third visit, I was told to wait for a new harness and I finally got it fixed on the 4th visit (total cost was $750 for all 4 visit). If anyone else if having this problem, it would be a good idea to have them check the harness first and get them to put it into writing if they say it's ok.

01-11-2009, 04:29 AM	#60
jambo101 Drives: yaris 08 sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 1,286	I was only talking about the controllability of stopping on ice,for all other applications ABS works fine..

01-12-2009, 11:10 AM	#61
Maddman Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan (Aero) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Cambridge, ON, Canada Posts: 15	Both the parking brake and the ABS light came on this weekend. Took it to the dealer today. They just called and told me that it's the driver rear speed sensor that has malfunctioned. The part is on back order so I have to drive around with no ABS until they get the part.

01-17-2009, 09:25 PM	#63
devinlamothe Drives: '07 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sudbury, Canada Posts: 520	Here's a funny story. My "!" and ABS lights disappeared, but this should have been stored as a trouble code in my cars computer. I brought my car in for a maintenance the other day, I asked if they check trouble codes they said yes - well after I got my car back they said there were no codes showing? WTF. I never told them these lights went on until after the service. When I told the guy he looked surprised. So I'm not sure what is going on here. What I do know is it has been a few weeks since this happened, and I've also been on the highway (about 800km trip) since this happened and the lights haven't shown up again. Hopefully I got lucky because there is no way I am paying for this obvious defect.

01-19-2009, 02:15 PM	#64
Maddman Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan (Aero) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Cambridge, ON, Canada Posts: 15	Mine went turned off 2 days ago. Still waiting for the part(s) to come in. I think that it happens when it's really cold out. We've had a huge cold snap last week and now it's not as cold the sensor is working again. I'm still going to get it fixed though

01-20-2009, 07:02 PM	#66
Dave Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 100	This is nuts. Is there a Canadian equivalent to the NHTSA where these issues can be formally registered? Can we write to the Office of Consumer Affairs?

01-20-2009, 07:40 PM	#67
onizuka Drives: Yaris Blk 5 Drs RS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 45	The reason we won't get a recall is that the volume in Canada is so slim for Toyota to consider a recall. Also it only happens when and where it's cold, that's why you only hear it from us, the canadians. You don't see any americans from So-Cal complaining about that problem.

01-20-2009, 10:29 PM	#68
Dave Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 100	Maybe one of the affected posters could write in to the Toronto Star's Wheels section for advice on how to get Toyota moving on this issue. This is clearly not an isolated incident, and seems to be popping up as people's warranties are about to expire. Attention from a newspaper may add a little more publicity to the issue, and motivate Toyota to come up with a solution for all Yaris owners. At the very least, they (Wheels columnists) may give some advice on who to talk to without getting a boilerplate email response or a brush-off at a dealership. Website is www.wheels.ca. Check the "Columns & Advice" section for previous Q&A's, and the email address for writing in. I'm pretty sure it's just wheels (a t) thestar.ca. Applicable column is probably "Your Beef". I'd do it myself, but my car's been fine so far fingers crossed.

01-22-2009, 12:24 AM	#70
EDMR2 Drives: 2007 yaris S Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 9	If you don't want to fix it , can the code be erase so both of the lights comes off

01-22-2009, 11:22 PM	#71
Former_Neon Drives: 1997 Yaris LE Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 48	I started up my Yaris on Tuesday and the ABS and (!) lights were on. I took it to useless Whitby Toyota and, as usual, was treated with disdain. They told me they have to order the speed sensor part and they "don't know" when it'll be in. To hell with them, I'm taking my business to a different Toyota. By the way...is this the Toyota quality I've heard so much about? Just over a year of ownership and now this.