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02-26-2009, 10:27 AM | #73 |
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This picture puts it in the proper perspective...
The ForFour is more comparable to our beloved Yaris, even more so now that the 5-door is available in the States (although they the most common Yaris I saw in Europe, where the sedan isn’t even offered as far as I know). And I too took pics of Yarii I saw over there, the most at any one time being three diesels I saw in Huntingdon, UK and three at a dealership in southern Germany. I have to admit I get excited at the sight of another Yaris, and think the wave thing would be cool as it works with Jeeps and motorcycles. The fact that the Yaris is still rather unique in this country, whereas you see Minis and the new Beetles all over the place. As I’ve stated before, that is one of the reasons I love the car so much; that and the fact that it reminds me so much of the cars I’ve seen and driven in Europe. Cheers! M2 |
02-26-2009, 11:19 AM | #74 |
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I will do the wave, although it will mean hearing that annoying drumming because my window is rolled down... I, too, enjoy driving the "unique"...
As was obvious from my previous vehicle (the Suzuki Swift)... |
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I have the same gripe. In fact, it's probably the only real big thing that bothers me about the car, looks like I've adapted well to almost everything else. I asked the same question in this forum a few days ago and some posters provided a few ideas, here you go : Quote:
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02-26-2009, 12:47 PM | #76 |
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02-26-2009, 02:26 PM | #77 | |
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I drove a Passat VR6 with a 5-speed for nine years before getting my Yaris, and that things shifted like a hot knife through butter. If you want lousy gearboxes, then drive a manual Ford Ranger pickup or a Jeep Wrangler. Now those are crunchy gearboxes! Cheers! M2 |
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02-26-2009, 04:27 PM | #78 | |
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Would get 36 mpg on the highway no trouble, with a full load of kid and college gear. I miss that heap! |
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02-26-2009, 05:34 PM | #79 |
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[QUOTE=ChinoCharles;252716]
However, the Yaris's gearbox "issue" isn't a Yaris thing... it is a Toyota thing.QUOTE] i still think its more of a yaris thinfg. going from my yaris to an '09 corolla, i would say the difference in shift dynamics is dramatically better for the corolla. shorter, smoother throws, friction pt not so close to the floor. the 09 civic coupes that i test drove actually seemd more clunky when shifting. still have the dbw issues, of course. maybe shifting the yaris for a year made me appreciate more conventional shifting dynamics. |
02-28-2009, 05:23 PM | #80 |
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After trucks, the worse clutches are, oddly enough, in German cars.
There clutches have ridiculously long throws (twice the length of a Yaris). They are also to "loose". The springs have very little resistance and is annoying. This is from my experience with Audi's, VW's, BMW's, ect. The only issue I have with my clutch is that you have to get used to revving the throttle more in 1st than most manuals to avoid stalling. Otherwise, the clutch itself feels great. |
03-02-2009, 05:24 PM | #81 | |
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2 points: 1. you can shift for optimum fuel economy (which you do). This means shifting at lower RPMs. 2. You can shift in the powerband (which i do). This means shifting at higher RPMs. PotAto - Potato. You will get 42 mpg, and I consistently get 37 mpg. .............. Even I with my higher RPM shifting will get better mileage (and alot more reserve power!) than the automatic. I also downshift alot, which conserves fuel, and brakes - though perhaps not the tranny ;-/. |
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03-02-2009, 05:39 PM | #82 | |
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former TR7 5speeder here. and 4speeder ford fiesta before that.......... I STILL STALL on 1st on occasion - once every couple of months or so. Just something about that damn clutch. I know what it is: it engages to high up, and when it engages it friction zone is too damn narrow - thus you stall out! once you get to 2nd gear its easier to shift up or down. getting into 1st is the challenge!! lol. I also notice reverse is hard to literally get the shifter into. one deals with it. |
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03-02-2009, 05:45 PM | #83 | |
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yes - I found the engine too damn quite to shift by sound (unlike my old Tr7) - there is not tachometer (DUMB DUMB DUMB TOYOTA!!!). I have to use my speedometer (after verifying RPMs from a nonUS Yaris hatchbacker here on these forums). I shift within 2200 rpms - 3500 rpms. so: 1st 1-17 mph 2nd 17-36 mph 3rd 36-50 mph 4th 50-65 mph 5th 65-90 mph not gone over 90 yet. these are approximate, but the numbers have served me well for these last 1.5 yrs in regard to shifting. this is shifting in the power band - not for optimum gas mileage. I average 37 mpg combined. |
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the delay is pretty bad. nto sure why though. you would think there could be a cheap solution like a faster circuit for something. you can really "feel"/"hear" the delay when you put the car in neutral and gun it. It takes a good 1/8th of a second after pressing the pedel before the engine even gets the signal to rev!!! it is a little anoying, but like in all things one gets used to it and compensates for it in daily driving. I do consider this a true to life design flaw and protentially dangerious in that it lessens ones full control over the car in split second reaction time environments (those being the deadly kind). toyota needs to fix this problem for the newer cars - pronto. |
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03-02-2009, 06:03 PM | #86 |
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I'd love a microcar!! - just not that bloated heavy slow overpriced non-shiftable "SMART" car. an IQ, or KA, or fiat 500, chatent Speedino, or the three-wheeler Tango Trike. I love small, and don't worry about dying. We all die someday. I'd prefer to enjoy the ride and not be a nervous nelly about it. Cancer or heart or falling space rock will kill me if the road don't - so just be a good defensive driver and enjoy the trip!!! - bring the small cars over here dammit! |
03-02-2009, 06:51 PM | #87 |
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Agreed, gaffo. Sometimes I think Americans think if they just do x, y, and z (get those full-body CAT scans, eat 50 vitamins a day, and drive a Hummer) they will never die...
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03-02-2009, 06:52 PM | #88 |
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03-02-2009, 07:58 PM | #89 |
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I laugh at people who bought the Smart. I run rings around them on the freeway and in the city. I also laugh when they are putting premium gas in their tanks while I put regular. The gas mileage in the Smart isn't all that great, especially since you can't do 80 without feeling like your engine is burning up.
Sorry, but the Smart isn't Smart. I see them for sale all the time because of the lack of power and people not realizing it used premium when they bought it. I also believe 2 seaters are for sports cars and fun cars, not cars that tip over.
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03-03-2009, 09:44 AM | #90 |
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upyaris... cute name!
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