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Nigal · 11-10-2008, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PK198105

not to open a can of worms , but why do you need CCW?
are the States that dangerous?

No, we are that free. :)

MadMax · 11-10-2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Nigal

No, we are that free. :)

Great answer!

Cheers! M2

SailDesign · 11-10-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Nigal

No, we are that free. :)

I'd disagree, but I know I'm in the minority here. If you feel the need to carry a concealed weapon, you are not free. True freedom would negate the need for such.

MadMax · 11-10-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SailDesign

I'd disagree, but I know I'm in the minority here. If you feel the need to carry a concealed weapon, you are not free. True freedom would negate the need for such.

And just how do you think we got that freedom? And just how have we maintained that freedom for over 230 years?

We are talking about the freedoms our founding fathers had the forethought to grant us, and ones many brave Americans have fought and died to preserve.

It is one of the things that makes this country truly free, and having spent 25 years of my life defending the Constitution and those freedoms, I take offense to the comment that exercising your Second Amendment right is not freedom!

SailDesign · 11-10-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MadMax

And just how do you think we got that freedom? And just how have we maintained that freedom for over 230 years?

We are talking about the freedoms our founding fathers had the forethought to grant us, and ones many brave Americans have fought and died to preserve.

It is one of the things that makes this country truly free, and having spent 25 years of my life defending the Constitution and those freedoms, I take offense to the comment that exercising your Second Amendment right is not freedom!

Max,
I'm not going to argue. You have your view, I have mine - leave it lie.

MadMax · 11-10-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SailDesign

Max,
I'm not going to argue. You have your view, I have mine - leave it lie.

You stated your view, so I stated mine. Are you denying the First Amendment as being a part of freedom now as well?

Nigal · 11-10-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MadMax

And just how do you think we got that freedom? And just how have we maintained that freedom for over 230 years?

We are talking about the freedoms our founding fathers had the forethought to grant us, and ones many brave Americans have fought and died to preserve.

It is one of the things that makes this country truly free, and having spent 25 years of my life defending the Constitution and those freedoms, I take offense to the comment that exercising your Second Amendment right is not freedom!

Great post. Ya know if shit gets really bad I'm depending on the good folks of Texas to leave the Union first so I can come there to live free. Don't let me down!! LOL!

Nigal · 11-10-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SailDesign

I'd disagree, but I know I'm in the minority here. If you feel the need to carry a concealed weapon, you are not free. True freedom would negate the need for such.

Sorry but I do consider being able to be in charge of my own defense to be a freedom. Because this entails me being responsible for myself, whereas your freedom deals and depends on the behavior of others.

Nigal · 11-10-2008, 08:26 AM

I carry a Springfield XD 40 most times and then I have a Taurus PT 111 compact nine I carry when wearing shorts or light clothing. The XD is my favorite because it's the most comfortable and is smooth as 18 year old scotch.

SIPNGAS · 11-10-2008, 10:32 AM

That would be true in an ideal world where people treated others with respect and there were no jackasses who were either greedy, evil, or desperate. Free will is a double-edged sword and not everyone uses it for good.

SailDesign · 11-10-2008, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SIPNGAS

That would be true in an ideal world where people treated others with respect and there were no jackasses who were either greedy, evil, or desperate. Free will is a double-edged sword and not everyone uses it for good.

Hence my mention of "True freedom". "Free will" is a whole 'nuther story....

SIPNGAS · 11-10-2008, 10:47 AM

Yup..I got it....

SailDesign · 11-10-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PK198105

can we go back to talking gun spec instead of politics ?

Any time. Please!

darthbauer · 11-10-2008, 12:03 PM

Their both fun but one is registered as a pistol and the other a rifle. Also, once an AR pistol is registered as a pistol then you can not convert it to a short barreled rifle and register it that way.

SailDesign · 11-10-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by darthbauer

Their both fun but one is registered as a pistol and the other a rifle. Also, once an AR pistol is registered as a pistol then you can not convert it to a short barreled rifle and register it that way.

Dontcha just love the way laws are written?

darthbauer · 11-10-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SailDesign

Dontcha just love the way laws are written?

Oh yeah and its fun to find the loop holes to get around them.

firemachine69 · 11-10-2008, 12:32 PM

If you're truly interested, the US Army has a paper that's highly detailed. IIRC it was over 200 pages, I should find it again.

Most people (including most first-time field veterans) can't properly assess bullet wounds due to shock. This was a sticking point of that paper.

I have not had cause to shoot anyone in my lifetime, and hope I never do.

And camell, no pics??

darthbauer · 11-10-2008, 12:34 PM

XD's are nice but boo on the streamlight

11-10-2008, 08:26 AM	#9
Nigal Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: May 2007 Location: Piqua, Ohio Posts: 302	I carry a Springfield XD 40 most times and then I have a Taurus PT 111 compact nine I carry when wearing shorts or light clothing. The XD is my favorite because it's the most comfortable and is smooth as 18 year old scotch. __________________ ********************************* "Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery; None but ourselves can free our minds."

11-10-2008, 10:32 AM	#10
SIPNGAS I LOVE my Yaris! View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Polar White LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southeast Wisconsin Posts: 5,164	That would be true in an ideal world where people treated others with respect and there were no jackasses who were either greedy, evil, or desperate. Free will is a double-edged sword and not everyone uses it for good. __________________ We don't see things as THEY are...we see them as WE are. Lisa aka *SIPNGAS*

11-10-2008, 10:47 AM	#12
SIPNGAS I LOVE my Yaris! View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Polar White LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southeast Wisconsin Posts: 5,164	Yup..I got it.... __________________ We don't see things as THEY are...we see them as WE are. Lisa aka *SIPNGAS*

11-10-2008, 12:03 PM	#14
darthbauer Not really here... Drives: 2008 Blazing Blue S hatchback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,062	Their both fun but one is registered as a pistol and the other a rifle. Also, once an AR pistol is registered as a pistol then you can not convert it to a short barreled rifle and register it that way. __________________ Liberate Tutemet Ex Infernis.

11-10-2008, 12:34 PM	#18
darthbauer Not really here... Drives: 2008 Blazing Blue S hatchback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,062	XD's are nice but boo on the streamlight __________________ Liberate Tutemet Ex Infernis.

11-10-2008, 12:32 PM	#17
firemachine69 School'er of hard knocks Drives: Silver Yaris 4dr. HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sudbury, On Posts: 556	If you're truly interested, the US Army has a paper that's highly detailed. IIRC it was over 200 pages, I should find it again. Most people (including most first-time field veterans) can't properly assess bullet wounds due to shock. This was a sticking point of that paper. I have not had cause to shoot anyone in my lifetime, and hope I never do. And camell, no pics??

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