What the Yaris community needs to take the Yaris to the next level

[kurokoma-kun]

j/k you dopes, the truth is i every last one of you, almost as much as the yaris itself

[ChinoCharles]

Originally Posted by kurokoma-kun

j/k you dopes, the truth is i every last one of you, almost as much as the yaris itself

We you too, oh boosted autocrossing one.

[kurokoma-kun]

well, i hate to be brutal charles, just dont be dishing out the s/c hate if you are gonna cry just because poopie brought up your bolt problem.. instead why don't you get us some ink in that newspaper you work for... please?

not to single you out that goes for all of you... Yaris Pride y'all

[ChinoCharles]

Turbo on Ebay - $150
Tamago's manifold $75
HKS SSQV BOV $160
TiAL wastegate - $260
Some generic intercooler - $75
Couplers, pipe - $150
E-mamage blue - $300
Exhaust - depends... lets say $500

Total: about $1700?

[kurokoma-kun]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Total: about $1700?

Honest question: how much professional help is likely to be needed, for the average person, and how much does that cost? As Tamago pointed out, lots of folks (like Garm) need/want help with their projects.

Another hypothetical question: for the "innovator" level, what do you all think is an acceptable failure rate for mods (knowing you may lose money but will gain valuable knowledge if nothing else). I see people saying you got pay to play, but for this car how far is "too far"?

[ChinoCharles]

Honest question: how much professional help is likely to be needed, for the average person, and how much does that cost? As Tamago pointed out, lots folks (like Garm) need/want help with their projects.

Its a lot of work, won't lie. Lots of flanges, lots of welding, but with proper preparation and documentation and all of the parts on hand and in front of you I don't see any reason why an install couldn't take place in a weekend. What do you think Tamago? You did it.

Also, that isn't counting the tune, which would likely take a day on its own.

[Nexus1155]

lol I know this is in the wheels section, but the thread is labeled as it is so youre going to get the spill over...

Also, you've seen people not warm up / cool down the turbo... thats not the turbos fault, thats drive stupidity and error. A turbo kit like Tamagos can be had for damn cheap, you dont even need much piping, you can just use silfab flex hose and it holds the psi fine for the cold side. Hot side you wold need pipe obviously.

The only thing on this car that is rocket science is the ECU, which you can get around with some tinkering.

[ChinoCharles]

^^ Hopefully.

The thread will revert back to suspension and traction discussions once the normal members come back. Its a nice Saturday, we're the only suckers here.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Turbo on Ebay - $150
Tamago's manifold $75
HKS SSQV BOV $160
TiAL wastegate - $260
Some generic intercooler - $75
Couplers, pipe - $150
E-mamage blue - $300
Exhaust - depends... lets say $500

Total: about $1700?

pick up a stock Bosch diverter valve from an A4 for $40, skip that SSQBOV noise.. ;)

oh and save yourself money and buy an internally wastegated turbo.

[ChinoCharles]

There ya go... $1600.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Its a lot of work, won't lie. Lots of flanges, lots of welding, but with proper preparation and documentation and all of the parts on hand and in front of you I don't see any reason why an install couldn't take place in a weekend. What do you think Tamago? You did it.

Also, that isn't counting the tune, which would likely take a day on its own.

my build took me about 4 months iirc. total build time was almost a year. the car was down for 6 weeks, wheels in the air: that's a long time, and here's why....


i spent a lot of time waiting for good parts deals to come along as the need arose. for instance, i didn't have all the parts gathered because i simply didn't know what all parts i actually would need!

i skimped in places i shouldn't have (used 1/4" plate for my uppipe flanges instead of 3/8:) and some of my engineering was just... not strong enough. cracked a few welds, went thru a TON of my own home made copper exhaust gaskets (between manifold and uppipe) and i'll attribute that to using too-thin plate for that flange. it was warping under heat, causing hot spots and burning up the copper.

if i were to do it again, knowing what i know, i'm confident that i could even have a custom setup done in a weekend, given the starting point is friday afternoon, and the ending point is sunday night, at least 12 hr days. gotta give your eyes a rest from welding.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

There ya go... $1600.

ummm, delete ssq bov and tial wastegate, add $40, that adds up to 1300...


i'd recommend a wideband and some larger injectors in the mix.

[ChinoCharles]

Good point. Forgot about that. You make the list.

[regal]

Personally FI on this car is of no interest to until someone cracks the ECU, otherwise you will fail the OBDII and have terrible gas milage.

The car has plenty hp for me, what I am interested in know what $= howmany lateral g's.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by regal

what I am interested in know what $= howmany lateral g's.

it's already been covered.

[regal]

No there's just one data point when expensive coil-overs and slicks.

[kurokoma-kun]

Originally Posted by regal

Personally FI on this car is of no interest to until someone cracks the ECU, otherwise you will fail the OBDII and have terrible gas milage.

I have 5 months of records that show my gas mileage actually improved a bit.

I was concerned about emissions so I took the car to a trusted exhaust shop for a check. The owner told me there was no reason why I should fail the test.

When you get your parts on regal, I hope you'll be able to gather some more data for us. Unlike the civic (or miata, etc) this car is new to the US market and fewer buyers are interested in immediate performance gains, so little testing has been done so far.

[Loren]

Originally Posted by regal

No there's just one data point when expensive coil-overs and slicks.

And you completely and totally missed the point. You can't equate parts to G's. The parts all have to work together, the car has to be set up properly, the driver has to know how to drive it properly, and the TIRES are a huge part of the equation.

If you want easy (and largely inaccurate) answers... you should have stuck with the Honda community. Just because someone says "this combination is good for .9 G" and "that combination is good for 1.05 G" doesn't mean that it's TRUE. Don't be a sheep, do your own research and experimentation. You don't necessarily need to be an "innovator" like Tamago says, but... do your research and learn about things.