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derickveliz2 · 03-13-2011, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

At what point does your vehicle sound the loudest bass-wise?

That will give you a VERY good enclosure and environment to allow the sub to play LOW and loud without even stressing the amplifier one bit.

I'm trying to understand... is this the point where the bass sounds better at a specific volume level...

I would say if 1 is really low volume and 10 is super loud without distortion... the best is from 4 to 8 and some thing I found is that I really don't make gain adjustments on my remote any more between songs, the bass sounds great for all kinds of music at any volume level.

Some thing I found very nice, before I had to adjust one, two or tree clicks on the gain control, depending on the song to make it sound good.

Please correct me if I'm wrong with this question.

D.

sqcomp · 03-15-2011, 12:01 AM

Okay...let's try this. Do you have a sine sweep from 100 to 20 Hz?

I'm working with a couple formulas to try to figure out what we can do with the ol kentucky resonator design on this woofer...

I'm working with one of the guys on the team who is actually fabbing up a ported enclosure to send it to Scott.

derickveliz2 · 03-15-2011, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Okay...let's try this. Do you have a sine sweep from 100 to 20 Hz?

Yes I do!

I got these bunch of Test Tones, that I have no idea how to use them, I got them from AmpGuts.com

D.

sqcomp · 03-15-2011, 02:08 PM

If you can find a 100hz to 20 hz sweep and burn it onto a disc...that would be good. Also, see if you can find the tones from oh, 36 hz to 50 hz in half dB increments... Burn those onto the disc as well. Something tells me we'll find the sweet spot inthe sedan around 38 to 42 hz.

derickveliz2 · 03-15-2011, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

If you can find a 100hz to 20 hz sweep and burn it onto a disc...that would be good. Also, see if you can find the tones from oh, 36 hz to 50 hz in half dB increments... Burn those onto the disc as well. Something tells me we'll find the sweet spot inthe sedan around 38 to 42 hz.

Done!

what do I do now? just play them? what to expect? what m I looking for?

Thanks

D.

sqcomp · 03-15-2011, 04:51 PM

what you're looking for is the frequency that sounds the loudest in the car. You're going to work the sine sweep until you get the general idea of where it sounds the loudest and THEN work the half dB tones until you nail it down specifically.

From there we tune the vented enclosure to work WITH the natural frequency of the vehicle to extend the "bump" of the overall response in the vehicle.

Thoughts?

derickveliz2 · 03-15-2011, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

what you're looking for is the frequency that sounds the loudest in the car.

OK,

Let me try in my way home. I'll let you know.

Thanks again

D.

derickveliz2 · 03-16-2011, 01:51 PM

OK, this thing it's hard for me, if I'm doing correctly it gets louder between 30Hz and 50Hz

Should I be looking at the graphic EQ display?

Sounds pretty good from start to end (feels good too). With a little low some where around 63Hz I guess this gap will be fixed once I install the L6s.

D.

sqcomp · 03-16-2011, 05:24 PM

The deck's display won't give you any pertinent info. At least we've nailed down the 20 Hz range. Now it's nailing the specific frequency to tune with. Is there one o those frequencies that "moves" the car more than the others?

...you probably also noticed that the Voltage likes to sink when throwing out sine sweeps...

derickveliz2 · 03-18-2011, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Is there one o those frequencies that "moves" the car more than the others?

I'M GETTING THERE!

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

...you probably also noticed that the Voltage likes to sink when throwing out sine sweeps...

In idle yes, and I haven't tried with the motor shut down; at highway speeds not much.

PS... I finished my taxes.... need to talk to your buddy... I need rings and a I6SW

D.

sickpuppy1 · 03-18-2011, 06:49 AM

I hope you meant you need to talk to his buddy, lol

derickveliz2 · 03-20-2011, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sickpuppy1

I hope you meant you need to talk to his buddy, lol

See what happens when you post around 2am LOL

Zzzzzzzzzzzz

D.

sqcomp · 03-18-2011, 09:29 AM

I remember the pricing for the i6sw...drop me an e mail of the time frame that you want this to happen with the woofer and the trim ring. I'll let Jim know...

sickpuppy1 · 03-20-2011, 01:19 AM

LOL, I figured as much. I just have a habit of pouncing on a weak moment. Its a short guy attitude thing.....

derickveliz2 · 03-20-2011, 11:22 PM

Well,
I've been looking for a new job, there is one that may work out, we'll see.

In the last week I've been struggling with some tire noise from my snow tires, what caused the noise? you got it! the rear Camber kit I installed last Fall.

So after figuring out now I'm going to remove the camber kit, it's a pain but I rather have a quite ride than a good looking camber wheels.

D.

derickveliz2 · 03-20-2011, 11:31 PM

Some thinking for the install I want to do, shown 8" woofer in almost 0.3cuft

Here is the direct LINK

D.

derickveliz2 · 03-20-2011, 11:36 PM

These are the specs for the subwoofer used in my previous post....

LINK

D.

derickveliz2 · 03-20-2011, 11:44 PM

Now this little guy claims it works in a sealed box volume: 0.15 cubic feet!

I have read good and bad things about it, the down side it's the Top Mount Depth of 4 3/16" for my install.

Maybe our friend Palmer has some imput about this little one!

JL Audio 6W3v3-4 LINK

D.

03-15-2011, 12:01 AM	#2
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Okay...let's try this. Do you have a sine sweep from 100 to 20 Hz? I'm working with a couple formulas to try to figure out what we can do with the ol kentucky resonator design on this woofer... I'm working with one of the guys on the team who is actually fabbing up a ported enclosure to send it to Scott. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine Last edited by sqcomp; 03-15-2011 at 01:04 AM.

03-15-2011, 02:08 PM	#4
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	If you can find a 100hz to 20 hz sweep and burn it onto a disc...that would be good. Also, see if you can find the tones from oh, 36 hz to 50 hz in half dB increments... Burn those onto the disc as well. Something tells me we'll find the sweet spot inthe sedan around 38 to 42 hz. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

03-15-2011, 04:51 PM	#6
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	what you're looking for is the frequency that sounds the loudest in the car. You're going to work the sine sweep until you get the general idea of where it sounds the loudest and THEN work the half dB tones until you nail it down specifically. From there we tune the vented enclosure to work WITH the natural frequency of the vehicle to extend the "bump" of the overall response in the vehicle. Thoughts? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

03-16-2011, 01:51 PM	#8
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	OK, this thing it's hard for me, if I'm doing correctly it gets louder between 30Hz and 50Hz Should I be looking at the graphic EQ display? Sounds pretty good from start to end (feels good too). With a little low some where around 63Hz I guess this gap will be fixed once I install the L6s. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

03-16-2011, 05:24 PM	#9
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	The deck's display won't give you any pertinent info. At least we've nailed down the 20 Hz range. Now it's nailing the specific frequency to tune with. Is there one o those frequencies that "moves" the car more than the others? ...you probably also noticed that the Voltage likes to sink when throwing out sine sweeps... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

03-18-2011, 06:49 AM	#11
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	I hope you meant you need to talk to his *buddy*, lol __________________

03-18-2011, 09:29 AM	#13
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	I remember the pricing for the i6sw...drop me an e mail of the time frame that you want this to happen with the woofer and the trim ring. I'll let Jim know... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

03-20-2011, 01:19 AM	#14
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	LOL, I figured as much. I just have a habit of pouncing on a weak moment. Its a short guy attitude thing..... __________________

03-20-2011, 11:22 PM	#15
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Well, I've been looking for a new job, there is one that may work out, we'll see. In the last week I've been struggling with some tire noise from my snow tires, what caused the noise? you got it! the rear Camber kit I installed last Fall. So after figuring out now I'm going to remove the camber kit, it's a pain but I rather have a quite ride than a good looking camber wheels. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

03-20-2011, 11:31 PM	#16
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Some thinking for the install I want to do, shown 8" woofer in almost 0.3cuft Here is the direct LINK D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

03-20-2011, 11:36 PM	#17
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	These are the specs for the subwoofer used in my previous post.... LINK D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

03-20-2011, 11:44 PM	#18
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Now this little guy claims it works in a sealed box volume: 0.15 cubic feet! I have read good and bad things about it, the down side it's the Top Mount Depth of 4 3/16" for my install. Maybe our friend Palmer has some imput about this little one! JL Audio 6W3v3-4 LINK D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

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