Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade - Page 63 - Toyota Yaris Forums

derickveliz2 · 03-08-2011, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

@vimn
I think we're already at and past the point of simply putting tweeters in the pillars. :)
Wouldn't you say D? Both of us have gone WAY past just a simple tweeter install.

We have discuss this before, and I feel "vimn" is just trying to share with us his accomplishments upgrading the speakers with 6.5" components + tweeters, but here we go so we all learn (like me a year ago I knew nothing!)

Some one told me about this issue:

When using components (6.5" + tweeter) it's recommended that you keep them no more than 12" apart. why?

You will end up with female voices (highs) up at the tweeter level and male voices (lows) way down where your 6.5 speakers are. And rear speakers do nothing for "Front Stage" even the Sub want's to go up front!

To accomplish "Sound Stage" is more than that, Time Alignment it's a key feature that makes it possible (a 3D-mentional sensation of sound) . And having a main source of sound it's so important even though we run 4 channels (high, mids, lows, and sub) for Sound Stage I'm using my 3" Mids to be the main source of sound playing with a frequency from 200 hz to 10 Khz, this moves my stage where ever my MIDS are. Highs (tweeter pick up from 10 Khz and up, but they are next to the MIDS so no frequency separation) Also "aiming" the MIDS it's important... I've been learning how it works, for example my mids are aiming to the middle of the front seats (kind of a 45 degrees from the sides) that it's wrong, makes my stage right in front of my face and it's not parallel (kind of like a "V" shape), I feel more like "In Stage" than "Front Stage"

I'm going to redo the Mids aiming almost facing each other so my stage moves over the dashboard (Forward).

Thanks "vimn" for posting, pictures are welcome!

D.

derickveliz2 · 03-08-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

hey D...

Here are the specs as promised:

http://hybrid-audio.com/Imagine%20I6SW.pdf

Thanks!
I was looking at this last night, mmm they are not the same size compared to the L6s

They aren't too deep either, that's good! I'll start sketching...

HAT even had a Photo of the new I6SW on FB...

D.

derickveliz2 · 03-09-2011, 01:22 AM

This is what it looks like to accomplish 0.30 cu ft for each I6SW

kind of like a sub-floor!

D.

sqcomp · 03-09-2011, 02:40 PM

If you do that with a fiberglass floor, it'd be easier. What about that suggestion you made of one vented I6SW?

The distance issue you asked about has to do with phasing and crossover points for the most part. Since you're running active off the deck, you can solve that. Don't worry about it. Jsut ask questions if any issues come up.

derickveliz2 · 03-09-2011, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

If you do that with a fiberglass floor, it'd be easier. What about that suggestion you made of one vented I6SW?

If I go with 1 vented I6SW then I can still do my L6s in the kick panels...

Me thinking....

D.

vimnjicki · 03-09-2011, 04:16 PM

I appreciate all the comments and replies, guys and yes, I know most in this thread has gone past a simple tweeter install. I havent done any car audio in over five years and its still, like a kid learning to walk, kinda exciting to actually not screw up the hole i just drilled and/or not reverse the wire polarity.

derickveliz2 · 03-09-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vimnjicki

I appreciate all the comments and replies,where is the hole in the firewall through which to run the amplifier power wires? Do I have to make one? Thanks for the replies.

You don't have to make one, Mine is on the passenger's side up under the carpet over the fire wall, others have done it on the pilots side.

D.

RawrDaddy · 03-09-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by derickveliz2

D.

hey derick x do you have any pics of your current audio setup inside your Yaris?

derickveliz2 · 03-09-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RawrDaddy

hey derick x do you have any pics of your current audio setup inside your Yaris?

What would you like to see?

D.

sqcomp · 03-09-2011, 08:46 PM

Hey D, be prepped for pics of the L8SE coming soon! I have no speakers in the car right now...next week we're going to map out the trunk build out and I'll probably be leaving the car with Jim and Justin for a week while I use my father's car...

vimnjicki · 03-09-2011, 09:17 PM

Thanks, Derick. I found the sticky that showed where that hole is in the firewall.

derickveliz2 · 03-09-2011, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

Hey D, be prepped for pics of the L8SE coming soon! I have no speakers in the car right now...next week we're going to map out the trunk build out and I'll probably be leaving the car with Jim and Justin for a week while I use my father's car...

Look at you, I'm trying to get an I6SW and in a few weeks you are going to tell me that they are coming with a new I6SWSE or an I8SW or some thing like that.

You better tell Scott that I would do the Photo Studio pictures for him for FREE of course, just tell him to send a pair of each SE to me. Jeje

D.

RawrDaddy · 03-09-2011, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by derickveliz2

What would you like to see?

D.

Where you have your mids and tweets at currently.

..plus i tend to have a thing for the yaris's interior

derickveliz2 · 03-09-2011, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RawrDaddy

Where you have your mids and tweets at currently.

..plus i tend to have a thing for the yaris's interior

Sure...

Photo 1

Photo 2

Photo 3

D.

derickveliz2 · 03-10-2011, 10:28 PM

Today I tried the IDQ facing UP down in front of the passenger's seat...(sorry for the quality of the photo)

Long story short... my right ear was soar very quickly, and I could feel where the BASS was coming from. So I rotated 90 degrees towards the back, facing the seat. That's the sweet spot.

This is the sweet spot...

The option of putting a woofer facing up it's no more an option.

D.

sqcomp · 03-11-2011, 12:27 AM

What about turning it to the dash?

TOLMACH · 03-11-2011, 04:38 AM

I heard this speaker couple times installed where you plan yours in 8 and 10 liters.. I liked the result..

https://www.madisound.com/store/prod...roducts_id=686

derickveliz2 · 03-11-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

What about turning it to the dash?

I think you know the answer! I know you like subs firing down!

Well... SWEET + 2

The output it's great! feels like 2 subs instead of one,

A little bit the effect that the trunk creates but it feels good since it's coming from the front!

Some what more BOOM BOOM that SQ,
and it doesn't blends as good with the Mid-Bass compare when facing towards the seat.

One way or the another it's great, I can live with it, what...
I want to live with it! the idea is to gain back that space,
at least a person can sit down on the passenger's seat and I can show off my music.
Definitely I'm not going to put the BASS back in the trunk!

It's amazing how acoustics works, and this reminds me about that

"It doesn't matter if you get the most expensive speakers in the market,
if they are not install properly, they probably sound like Piiii "

Here a picture of the IDQ facing forward...

D.

03-09-2011, 01:22 AM	#1119
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	This is what it looks like to accomplish 0.30 cu ft for each I6SW kind of like a sub-floor! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

03-09-2011, 02:40 PM	#1120
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	If you do that with a fiberglass floor, it'd be easier. What about that suggestion you made of one vented I6SW? The distance issue you asked about has to do with phasing and crossover points for the most part. Since you're running active off the deck, you can solve that. Don't worry about it. Jsut ask questions if any issues come up. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

03-09-2011, 04:16 PM	#1122
vimnjicki Drives: 2008 Yaris 3dr Hatch Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Redlands Posts: 10	I appreciate all the comments and replies, guys and yes, I know most in this thread has gone past a simple tweeter install. I havent done any car audio in over five years and its still, like a kid learning to walk, kinda exciting to actually not screw up the hole i just drilled and/or not reverse the wire polarity. Last edited by vimnjicki; 03-09-2011 at 04:27 PM.

03-09-2011, 08:46 PM	#1126
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Hey D, be prepped for pics of the L8SE coming soon! I have no speakers in the car right now...next week we're going to map out the trunk build out and I'll probably be leaving the car with Jim and Justin for a week while I use my father's car... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

03-10-2011, 10:28 PM	#1131
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Today I tried the IDQ facing UP down in front of the passenger's seat...(sorry for the quality of the photo) Long story short... my right ear was soar very quickly, and I could feel where the BASS was coming from. So I rotated 90 degrees towards the back, facing the seat. That's the sweet spot. This is the sweet spot... The option of putting a woofer facing up it's no more an option. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

03-09-2011, 09:17 PM	#1127
vimnjicki Drives: 2008 Yaris 3dr Hatch Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Redlands Posts: 10	Thanks, Derick. I found the sticky that showed where that hole is in the firewall.

03-11-2011, 12:27 AM	#1132
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	What about turning it to the dash? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

03-11-2011, 04:38 AM	#1133
TOLMACH Drives: soarer Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Beautiful British Columbia Posts: 954	I heard this speaker couple times installed where you plan yours in 8 and 10 liters.. I liked the result.. https://www.madisound.com/store/prod...roducts_id=686

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