Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade - Page 63 - Toyota Yaris Forums

derickveliz2 · 03-09-2011, 01:22 AM

This is what it looks like to accomplish 0.30 cu ft for each I6SW

kind of like a sub-floor!

D.

sqcomp · 03-09-2011, 02:40 PM

If you do that with a fiberglass floor, it'd be easier. What about that suggestion you made of one vented I6SW?

The distance issue you asked about has to do with phasing and crossover points for the most part. Since you're running active off the deck, you can solve that. Don't worry about it. Jsut ask questions if any issues come up.

derickveliz2 · 03-09-2011, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

If you do that with a fiberglass floor, it'd be easier. What about that suggestion you made of one vented I6SW?

If I go with 1 vented I6SW then I can still do my L6s in the kick panels...

Me thinking....

D.

vimnjicki · 03-09-2011, 04:16 PM

I appreciate all the comments and replies, guys and yes, I know most in this thread has gone past a simple tweeter install. I havent done any car audio in over five years and its still, like a kid learning to walk, kinda exciting to actually not screw up the hole i just drilled and/or not reverse the wire polarity.

derickveliz2 · 03-09-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vimnjicki

I appreciate all the comments and replies,where is the hole in the firewall through which to run the amplifier power wires? Do I have to make one? Thanks for the replies.

You don't have to make one, Mine is on the passenger's side up under the carpet over the fire wall, others have done it on the pilots side.

D.

RawrDaddy · 03-09-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by derickveliz2

D.

hey derick x do you have any pics of your current audio setup inside your Yaris?

derickveliz2 · 03-09-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RawrDaddy

hey derick x do you have any pics of your current audio setup inside your Yaris?

What would you like to see?

D.

sqcomp · 03-09-2011, 08:46 PM

Hey D, be prepped for pics of the L8SE coming soon! I have no speakers in the car right now...next week we're going to map out the trunk build out and I'll probably be leaving the car with Jim and Justin for a week while I use my father's car...

vimnjicki · 03-09-2011, 09:17 PM

Thanks, Derick. I found the sticky that showed where that hole is in the firewall.

derickveliz2 · 03-09-2011, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

Hey D, be prepped for pics of the L8SE coming soon! I have no speakers in the car right now...next week we're going to map out the trunk build out and I'll probably be leaving the car with Jim and Justin for a week while I use my father's car...

Look at you, I'm trying to get an I6SW and in a few weeks you are going to tell me that they are coming with a new I6SWSE or an I8SW or some thing like that.

You better tell Scott that I would do the Photo Studio pictures for him for FREE of course, just tell him to send a pair of each SE to me. Jeje

D.

RawrDaddy · 03-09-2011, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by derickveliz2

What would you like to see?

D.

Where you have your mids and tweets at currently.

..plus i tend to have a thing for the yaris's interior

derickveliz2 · 03-09-2011, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RawrDaddy

Where you have your mids and tweets at currently.

..plus i tend to have a thing for the yaris's interior

Sure...

Photo 1

Photo 2

Photo 3

D.

derickveliz2 · 03-10-2011, 10:28 PM

Today I tried the IDQ facing UP down in front of the passenger's seat...(sorry for the quality of the photo)

Long story short... my right ear was soar very quickly, and I could feel where the BASS was coming from. So I rotated 90 degrees towards the back, facing the seat. That's the sweet spot.

This is the sweet spot...

The option of putting a woofer facing up it's no more an option.

D.

sqcomp · 03-11-2011, 12:27 AM

What about turning it to the dash?

derickveliz2 · 03-11-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

What about turning it to the dash?

I think you know the answer! I know you like subs firing down!

Well... SWEET + 2

The output it's great! feels like 2 subs instead of one,

A little bit the effect that the trunk creates but it feels good since it's coming from the front!

Some what more BOOM BOOM that SQ,
and it doesn't blends as good with the Mid-Bass compare when facing towards the seat.

One way or the another it's great, I can live with it, what...
I want to live with it! the idea is to gain back that space,
at least a person can sit down on the passenger's seat and I can show off my music.
Definitely I'm not going to put the BASS back in the trunk!

It's amazing how acoustics works, and this reminds me about that

"It doesn't matter if you get the most expensive speakers in the market,
if they are not install properly, they probably sound like Piiii "

Here a picture of the IDQ facing forward...

D.

derickveliz2 · 03-11-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TOLMACH

I heard this speaker couple times installed where you plan yours in 8 and 10 liters.. I liked the result..

https://www.madisound.com/store/prod...roducts_id=686

Thanks TOLMACH,

10 liters is what I need to put an I6SW in a ported box, the advantage of a smaller woofer is installation, the But of the Peerless 830452 10" XLS is bigger.

But that's for posting this woofer looks like a great option for Yaris enthusiasts looking for a good and smaller box solution.

D.

sqcomp · 03-11-2011, 04:42 PM

There will obviously be a difference beteen an IDQ 12 and a Hybrid 6 (even if it's ported). I would seriously look at the direction of "fire" on the woofer before makiing permanent changes.

You have to remember that the mid bass shouldn't be affected when your final plan is put into place. look at the difference in the enclosure of the IDQ and the Imagine woofer. You also should consider the tuning frequency of the sub woofer along with the resonant frequency of the car...and correspond the two so that they work together. At what point does your vehicle sound the loudest bass-wise? That will give you a VERY good enclosure and environment to allow the sub to play LOW and loud without even stressing the amplifier one bit.

derickveliz2 · 03-13-2011, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

There will obviously be a difference beteen an IDQ 12 and a Hybrid 6 (even if it's ported). I would seriously look at the direction of "fire" on the woofer before makiing permanent changes.

You have to remember that the mid bass shouldn't be affected when your final plan is put into place. look at the difference in the enclosure of the IDQ and the Imagine woofer. You also should consider the tuning frequency of the sub woofer along with the resonant frequency of the car...and correspond the two so that they work together. At what point does your vehicle sound the loudest bass-wise? That will give you a VERY good enclosure and environment to allow the sub to play LOW and loud without even stressing the amplifier one bit.

I agree 110% with you.

I asume the IDQ out performs the little I6SW (a 12" woofer vs a 6" woofer?), but I'm aware that I'm not pushing the IDQ, I've seen videos and they move! mine moves just a little bit, my gains are very low, I never had the amp even warm up after one and a half our of playing continuously all kinds of music, the volt meter in the P99 shows 14.1v most of the time on the road, and at stop signs around 13.8v with music playing all the time.

I had a time of my life where I wanted my neighbors and friends to notice, hear and feel when I has coming around the corner (and I did, but boy my ears hurt and I really didn't enjoy music as I do with this set up), now it's all about sound quality, and it's just that little touch of bass (true bass) what I'm looking for. Low to moderate volume it's what I like, feel the music, be able to drive for more than an hour without fatigue or a piiiiiiiip inside my ears. I enjoy all the benefits of the time I spent deadening my noisy Yaris.

That is why I appreciate all your help, it's a learning process, it's an art, obsession and passion. After experimenting with the woofer up front there is no way back, it just sounds and feels beautiful (at least for me).

If I end up going with a vented box with a I6SW I know that it's the "vent" direction that counts, and maybe I'll to a dummy enclosure (ends up about a little bigger than a shoe box) and just play with "direction of fire" before glassing any permanent installation. I know there are many other issues to take in consideration, but I'm willing to go ahead, learn and experiment and like my mids... you told me in a very nice way not to aim them like I did, now I'm going back to re-aim and play more "off axis", but how I know this is the way to go... by experience! I learn from my mistakes.

Now I'm stuck with a problem at home.... "no heat!"

I got to fix that first.

D.

03-09-2011, 01:22 AM	#1117
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	This is what it looks like to accomplish 0.30 cu ft for each I6SW kind of like a sub-floor! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

03-09-2011, 02:40 PM	#1118
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	If you do that with a fiberglass floor, it'd be easier. What about that suggestion you made of one vented I6SW? The distance issue you asked about has to do with phasing and crossover points for the most part. Since you're running active off the deck, you can solve that. Don't worry about it. Jsut ask questions if any issues come up. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

03-09-2011, 04:16 PM	#1120
vimnjicki Drives: 2008 Yaris 3dr Hatch Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Redlands Posts: 10	I appreciate all the comments and replies, guys and yes, I know most in this thread has gone past a simple tweeter install. I havent done any car audio in over five years and its still, like a kid learning to walk, kinda exciting to actually not screw up the hole i just drilled and/or not reverse the wire polarity. Last edited by vimnjicki; 03-09-2011 at 04:27 PM.

03-09-2011, 08:46 PM	#1124
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Hey D, be prepped for pics of the L8SE coming soon! I have no speakers in the car right now...next week we're going to map out the trunk build out and I'll probably be leaving the car with Jim and Justin for a week while I use my father's car... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

03-10-2011, 10:28 PM	#1129
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Today I tried the IDQ facing UP down in front of the passenger's seat...(sorry for the quality of the photo) Long story short... my right ear was soar very quickly, and I could feel where the BASS was coming from. So I rotated 90 degrees towards the back, facing the seat. That's the sweet spot. This is the sweet spot... The option of putting a woofer facing up it's no more an option. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

03-09-2011, 09:17 PM	#1125
vimnjicki Drives: 2008 Yaris 3dr Hatch Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Redlands Posts: 10	Thanks, Derick. I found the sticky that showed where that hole is in the firewall.

03-11-2011, 12:27 AM	#1130
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	What about turning it to the dash? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

03-11-2011, 04:42 PM	#1133
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	There will obviously be a difference beteen an IDQ 12 and a Hybrid 6 (even if it's ported). I would seriously look at the direction of "fire" on the woofer before makiing permanent changes. You have to remember that the mid bass shouldn't be affected when your final plan is put into place. look at the difference in the enclosure of the IDQ and the Imagine woofer. You also should consider the tuning frequency of the sub woofer along with the resonant frequency of the car...and correspond the two so that they work together. At what point does your vehicle sound the loudest bass-wise? That will give you a VERY good enclosure and environment to allow the sub to play LOW and loud without even stressing the amplifier one bit. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

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