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02-18-2012, 01:45 PM | #109 | |
Nothing beats a Toyota!
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02-18-2012, 05:40 PM | #110 | |
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If anything, it can be argued that the latter is a distractor due to the additional functions required to operate the vehicle. Once an auto is in Drive, you can focus on driving. It is like the ridiculous argument that new drivers should learn on a stick. Bullcrap. I am teaching my teenage son how to drive with my auto Yaris, and once he has the basic techniques down I will then introduce the added actions of a manual transmission. I have owned many manuals over my 35+ years of driving, but see the wisdom in automatic transmissions and with the advances that have been made in technology, you can see how the manual transmission will slowly fade into the status of 8-track tapes and rotary phones...
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02-18-2012, 08:36 PM | #111 | |
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02-19-2012, 03:09 AM | #112 | |
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02-19-2012, 03:38 PM | #113 | |
Nothing beats a Toyota!
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With automatics having 6 and on some cases, 8 speeds, they will be a better option in the mileage wars. Once the MPG of an auto is more than a manual, the car makers will abandon the manual to keep their CAFE standards high. I am sure you will be able to buy a manual, but you will be hard pressed to find one on a new car within 10 years. Its almost like front wheel drive. Once all cars were rear wheel drive. Now, its hard to find one. Once the industry leans in a direction, they never go back!
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02-19-2012, 03:57 PM | #114 | ||
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The newer, more sophisticated automatics will shift faster and better than a standard transmission. A BMW M double-clutch transmission (DCT) Drivelogic in the BMW M3 is quicker and can shift more effectively than a manual transmission... Quote:
Even in the world of competitive off-roading, the majority of racers have made the switch due to the numerous advantages of modern automatic transmissions. Autos are becoming much more popular as well, back in 2008 when I was looking for a Yaris it was considerably easier finding one with an auto than it was a manual. And before anyone contends that was due to the fact that all the manuals were bought up, the truth is that dealerships and Toyota knew the demand would be greater for autos therefore more of those models were produced. Lastly, as I've always contended, you can manually shift an automatic transmission; but there's no way can get a standard transmission to shift on its own. The options will be there to either let the car chose the optimal gear or the driver, but the days of clutches are numbered and anyone who thinks such outdated technology will be around much longer is kidding themselves. So enjoy your Neanderthal manual transmissions and clutches, as I agree in a decade or so you will be hard-pressed to find a modern car with them! Cheers! M2
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02-19-2012, 11:21 PM | #115 | |
Nothing beats a Toyota!
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02-21-2012, 12:42 PM | #116 |
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I haven't owned a MT for 15 years but had my choice from 3 different ones that they had. (2) AT and (1) MT. Since I drive 450-500 miles a week I wanted to squeeze as many miles out of a tank as I could.
I think it's a lot of fun to drive but maybe I don't have the shifting down right since I'm not getting the MPG's that everyone else is getting. I think when it's paid off I'll want to get the new CRZ with auto. |
02-21-2012, 01:15 PM | #117 |
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i dont mind the auto, usually i am driving it early in the morning and the last thing i want to do it move alot, just drive normal so its good.
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02-27-2012, 01:34 AM | #118 |
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Do miss the Blazing Blue '08 3 door base model w/ the 5 speed manual . But can live with the gas mileage of the '08 base model sedan with the 4 speed auto . Here's the reason why . Reaching 45 m.p.g. about 32 miles after a fill up and ending up with 40.2 when getting home . City driving killed it , hit many stop lights . Eco meter is set at 94 , so the readings could be a bit higher .
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02-27-2012, 09:58 AM | #119 |
What I thought I'd do was
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I wish I had gotten the MT, mostly for the extra mods you can do to MT and it just being more fun to drive.
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02-28-2012, 01:14 PM | #120 |
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02-28-2012, 02:15 PM | #121 |
What I thought I'd do was
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lol I don't actually have either of those anymore, but I do have 36 others :P Here's a picture of what my latest purchase was. This one isn't mine, but is almost exactly what it'll look like. Mine is still pending with the BATFE and will be for another couple of months.
It's as automatic as you can get :)
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02-29-2012, 12:25 AM | #122 |
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There was a tan 2nd generation Prius in front of us when the 45 appeared on the Eco-Meter that's pictured above . Had that pic , but deleted it .
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03-03-2012, 10:41 PM | #123 |
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03-11-2012, 07:19 PM | #124 |
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I will always take a MT over an AT. Overtaking, sporty driving is a lot comfier with a MT. In Europe almost everyone drives a MT. If you go get your drivers license in an AT you will never be allowed to drive a MT so here everyone knows how to drive a MT. Once used to a MT I like it a lot more than the AT.
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03-28-2012, 07:50 PM | #125 |
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Considering my parents bought the car, I had no say, but comming from a 1966 Mustang with a 331 stroker and a 5 speed, I miss my third pedal but selling the mustang and going from 11 MPG to 37 MPG when you drive 300 miles a week... well it really makes a difference to the bottom line when bills are due! Not to mentinon the reliability increase
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07-16-2012, 09:03 PM | #126 |
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I have been driving a stick for 29 years .. and honestly I wish that my Yaris was an auto compared to the stick that I have.
I find that the Yaris is picky when it comes to starting out from a standstill. I had a Honda before this .. and the Yaris is way way more of a pain in the ass when it comes to shifting. Wishing I had an AT in my Yaris. |
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