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Old 03-05-2009, 01:03 AM   #1
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Word came down Friday 32 hours...I can live with that. Just about every factory around here has done this, after they laid off to the bare bones.
Why so many cars???? Why not? Maybe ask Jay Leno.
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Old 03-02-2009, 06:06 PM   #2
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2 year anniversary for Black Betty tomorrow....59,800+ miles. Had well over 100 cars since 1964, and this is one of the tops!!!! Does everything I need.....5 of us travelled over 1,000 miles in a 3 day weekend, have hauled 1,000 lb payloads, have averaged over 38 mpg (have records to prove it).

Sad thing is either getting hours cut, pay cut, or laid off next week....Black Betty may have to go....
33k here , also have the hitch like you. its great being able to haul crap around without worrying about finding a damn truck to borrow.

-sorry about the bad economic news, its bad all over. Oklahoma has dodged the bullet...........so far.

I do NOT expect that she will continue to do so ;-/. its getting scary out there ;-(.
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:03 PM   #3
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-sorry about the bad economic news, its bad all over. Oklahoma has dodged the bullet...........so far.

I do NOT expect that she will continue to do so ;-/. its getting scary out there ;-(.
It's scary everywhere lately. Hang in there. We'll get through this.
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:28 PM   #4
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I'm happier with my Yaris now, it's paid off, well not really just paid off to a line of credit which has better interest rate (1.9% Line of credit vs 8.25% toyota financial) and I will also help my husband with paying it off the line of credit sooner we have other things on it.

Just hang it there everyone, it will be better soon.
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:29 PM   #5
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I'm happier with my Yaris now, it's paid off, well not really just paid off to a line of credit which has better interest rate (1.9% Line of credit vs 8.25% toyota financial) ..


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Old 03-03-2009, 12:19 PM   #6
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There's room for lobotomized Pollyannas AND born critics in this world; we all play a role.

Ever heard of "Devil's Advocate"?
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:50 PM   #7
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There's room for lobotomized Pollyannas AND born critics in this world; we all play a role.

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ever heard of the want ads?
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:01 PM   #8
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There's room for lobotomized Pollyannas AND born critics in this world; we all play a role.
Otter - the thing you fail to understand is that I bougfht the car because I liked it. I'm sorry, but that is the case - and I STILL like it. Is it perfect? nope! But it's a sh!t-load better than anything else out there for my purposes.
You bought the car because .... Well, I haven't been able to figure that out. Obviously, neither have you. Can I suggest a Honda Fit, and maybe another forum? Please?
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:07 PM   #9
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There's room for lobotomized Pollyannas AND born critics in this world; we all play a role.

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Born critic? This is extreme! Just because someone doesn't continuosly whine and b!tch and complain mean they're a Pollyanna.

Do you have a significant other? How about kids? Good luck with either one because from what I can tell, there isn't a thing or anybody that will make you happy and the constant criticism will make one lonely Advocate. Of course, you will always have yourself to listen to...but sooner or later, that will be it. Good luck with that.
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:19 PM   #10
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Born critic? This is extreme! Just because someone doesn't continuosly whine and b!tch and complain mean they're a Pollyanna.

Do you have a significant other? How about kids? Good luck with either one because from what I can tell, there isn't a thing or anybody that will make you happy and the constant criticism will make one lonely Advocate. Of course, you will always have yourself to listen to...but sooner or later, that will be it. Good luck with that.

Thanks for the free psychoanalysis! Does your SO ever get tired of that?

Sail, I bought it because - exactly as you said - it's a boatload better than anything else out there, but that's just a sad commentary on the small-car market in this country today. There have been better small cars in the past and, hopefully (if anyone heeds my suggestions), there will be in the future.

To be honest, the dealership didn't have a hatch, so I test-drove a sedan. Turns out it was "different." Then I switched from wanting an '09 (which I test-drove) to finding and settling for an '08 in the next state over. So, no, I guess technically I didn't test-drive the '08 Yaris before buying it, but assumed it was much the same car. That may account for some of the dissastisfaction (with the seat fabric, at least), and yes, that's my own fault.

But, again (I keep saying this), I think Toyota could do better... And will...

Note: when you are negative about "negatives," that makes you POSITIVE!

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Old 03-03-2009, 03:08 PM   #11
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Thanks for the free psychoanalysis! Does your SO ever get tired of that?

Sail, I bought it because - exactly as you said - it's a boatload better than anything else out there, but that's just a sad commentary on the small-car market in this country today. There have been better small cars in the past and, hopefully (if anyone heeds my suggestions), there will be in the future.

To be honest, the dealership didn't have a hatch, so I test-drove a sedan. Turns out it was "different." Then I switched from wanting an '09 (which I test-drove) to finding and settling for an '08 in the next state over. So, no, I guess technically I didn't test-drive the '08 Yaris before buying it, but assumed it was much the same car. That may account for some of the dissastisfaction (with the seat fabric, at least), and yes, that's my own fault.

But, again (I keep saying this), I think Toyota could do better... And will...

Note: when you are negative about "negatives," that makes you POSITIVE!


Well, that's the problem right there, I think. You gotta test drive the car you're going to buy OR be ready to be real flexible with what you get.

After a couple of months, you should be used to the shortcomings of the Yaris, no? I don't know, the car is growing on me.
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Old 03-05-2009, 10:28 AM   #12
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Well, that's the problem right there, I think. You gotta test drive the car you're going to buy OR be ready to be real flexible with what you get.

After a couple of months, you should be used to the shortcomings of the Yaris, no? I don't know, the car is growing on me.

Just surpised a 2008 hatch could be/feel so different from a 2009 sedan; what's up with that? But yes, I confess, I didn't test-drive the ACTUAL car I ended up with... : (

I don't hate it as much as I used to, it's true... After one weekend overnight trip (six hours on the road tota), I actually got a little warm-and-fuzzy twinge for it... But it passed when I tried to put my sunshield back in the car and fit it under the front passenger seat like I did in the Swift; nope, it wasn't going in there... Not without a lot of maneuvering... I was peeved...

First warm, sunny day, I'm going out in the driveway with my owners manual and really getting to know my car; will secure that rear seatbelt and get rid of that stupid hatch shelf that just gets in the way and outfit it with the paperboxes and canvas grocery bags I've read about on this forum and lay the backseat down for my kayak and bike and try to learn to love the Yaris.

Wish me luck...

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Old 03-07-2009, 08:20 PM   #13
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Thanks for the free psychoanalysis! Does your SO ever get tired of that?

Sail, I bought it because - exactly as you said - it's a boatload better than anything else out there, but that's just a sad commentary on the small-car market in this country today. There have been better small cars in the past and, hopefully (if anyone heeds my suggestions), there will be in the future.

To be honest, the dealership didn't have a hatch, so I test-drove a sedan. Turns out it was "different." Then I switched from wanting an '09 (which I test-drove) to finding and settling for an '08 in the next state over. So, no, I guess technically I didn't test-drive the '08 Yaris before buying it, but assumed it was much the same car. That may account for some of the dissastisfaction (with the seat fabric, at least), and yes, that's my own fault.

But, again (I keep saying this), I think Toyota could do better... And will...

Note: when you are negative about "negatives," that makes you POSITIVE!


I have to agree, the current state of American offerings of small cars is pathetic. No choices, no models.

1st off truely small cars ("A" segment) are not offered at all!, and very few "B" segment cars (MINI (too overpriced), and Yaris).

FIT and VERSA are not "B" cars - they may call themselves such but they are both alot longer in length than the Yaris.

..........

and sadly in conclusion - truely "fun cars" - those with stiff suspensions, tight non-powered stearing, and stick simply no longer exist in this country. People have lost the concept of driving for fun and unlike 20 yr or more ago, there just is no desire from the buying american public for buying a car that is fun to drive.

- that is why there is no modern equivalents to the Bugeye Sprite or MGs or VW Beetles anymore.

Americans used to have a joy for driving - but it was "marketed out" by the bean counters drumming the SUV and the endless "safety mantra" - and the sheople bought into it.


...........

Europeans still have a love for driving, that is why the new Fiat 500 ("A" Segment car), Ford KA ("A" segment car), Toyota IQ ("A segment car), Chatent Speedino (mini-car), and France and Itally offer microcars that are smaller than small! - like the perfor mentioned Speedino, and a whole class of fun cars.


http://www.qdoscars.co.uk/chatenex.htm

http://www.qdoscars.co.uk/m72.htm

http://www.automobiles-ligier.com/

etc..........

just boring cars here in america ;-/. Yaris is just the least boring of the boring in my book. (former Triumph driver - so I should know).
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Old 03-09-2009, 01:19 PM   #14
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"...and sadly in conclusion - truely "fun cars" - those with stiff suspensions, tight non-powered stearing, and stick simply no longer exist in this country."

Sad, but true; they stopped making the Suzuki Swift hatchback in 2001...

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Old 04-12-2009, 03:06 AM   #15
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- that is why there is no modern equivalents to the Bugeye Sprite or MGs or VW Beetles anymore.
I have a '59 Bugeye that was, believe it or not, my daily driver for the past 2 years......until I bought my Yaris last month. It is, without a doubt, the most fun car I have ever owned. It just really sucks in the snow and being in Colorado, you have to contend with snow enough times to make it impractical to really drive it year round.

I also owned a '93 Suzuki Swift GT.....it was an entertaining car and pretty fun to drive too. The suspension was set up to handle corners very well.....it had 4 wheel disc brakes (something I think all cars should have) and a 100 HP twin cam engine that loved to rev. I averaged 38 MPG with that car until the engine died.

I have had my Yaris hatchback for a month now (~1200 miles) and I'm averaging 35 MPG in almost all city-style driving. I have not been able to do any long highway drives yet, but I am fairly confident that it'll get 40MPG on the highway.....as it is, I am very pleased with the mileage I am getting considering the 12 miles of stop and go traffic I contend with every day.

It gets me to and from work reliably, which is what I needed. Not that the Bugeye is unreliable, but it was in the sense that if it snowed then I had no way to get to work. Now that spring is upon us, I will be driving the Bugeye more than the Yaris......I get the same 35 MPG, but in top down style.
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Old 03-05-2009, 01:24 PM   #16
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I've gotta "learn to love it" 'cause I'll take too big a hit otherwise, and I'm too cheap for that... ; / But there are still many days I wish I'd just kept my Suzuki Swift going until manufacturers get wise and come out with more choices in the subcompact category...

Okay; from now on, THINKING POSITIVE! : D
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I've gotta "learn to love it" 'cause I'll take too big a hit otherwise, and I'm too cheap for that... ; / But there are still many days I wish I'd just kept my Suzuki Swift going until manufacturers get wise and come out with more choices in the subcompact category...

Okay; from now on, THINKING POSITIVE! : D

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I love my Yaris. Both of them! My wife has a 2007 sedan, and I have a 2008 sedan. The price was right and the mileage is fantastic. I average 42 mpg, and my wife averages 47mpg. She has gotten as high as 50 mpg (she drives like a girl!)

I really wanted to purchase an American made car, but I couldn't find an attractive and economical one. Apparently, US automakers think Americans only want overpriced inefficient cars. (Go figure they need a bailout...)
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