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Old 08-04-2007, 09:58 PM   #1423
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Bredayaris, I was just ranting in a thread I started elsewhere about the USA not getting the "good stuff". I would kill (well, maybe throw a fit) to get a small diesel here. But, Big Oil and Big Pig Iron are joined at the board room to make sure we always have a big demand for petrol.




I'd dump my LB in a second for one of these....but, we will never see an Aygo here. Sigh.
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:37 AM   #1424
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I can't believe some of these mpg figures here. My LB has 16K miles on it and I got 39 mpg on a short trip ONCE but usually get 34 to 36 in and around town which includes 50% at 60 to 70 mph. I am not a hot rod guy and alternate between "driving by the handbook" to punching it to merge on the highway.

I tell most people who ask that I get 35 mpg regularly with my 5-speed.
Between 4,000 to the current 13,000+ I have only had 3 tanks below 40 mpg...1 was on a trip at 70 to 80 mph (36 mpg), 1 with air on (38 mpg), and 1 must of stepped on it too much (39 mpg). Most of my driving is 55-60 mph and usually 20 miles long (automatic), lowering springs, and 40 psi in tires.
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Old 08-05-2007, 04:44 PM   #1425
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my first tank with my new yaris liftback auto trans and i got 38.45 mpg with my normal everyday suburban driving with the a/c on.
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:52 PM   #1426
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45.606 mpg

I broke the 45 mpg barrier

I did it twice this past week. Once going across Canada-- cruise set at 62 mph and then in the mountains of New York. What amazes me is that it was in the mountains of New York that got the best mileage. I would have thought that running across the flat Canadian turf with cruise would have given me the best results. But in was the 'engine-braking' down the mountains that gave me the best yeild. Don't understand it, but I'll take it.

Look out 46 mpg!!
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:28 PM   #1427
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I've noticed this hill/mountain thing also! Theoretically going up an incline conservatively you could get 25-30 mpg....going down is free...so you could get 50-60 mpg (maybe theory isn't real life,but.....), while driving 62 on the flat may only get you 45-50 mpg!?!? The little stops and goes are what drop you down. Wish automatics had DFCO in drive.....3rd is usable only on very steep downhills at 50 or below or for stopping.
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:34 PM   #1428
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my first tank with my new yaris liftback auto trans and i got 38.45 mpg with my normal everyday suburban driving with the a/c on.
It gets even better as it breaks in!
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Old 08-06-2007, 10:19 AM   #1429
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coming from a trailblazer this mileage is amazing. i was hoping to get 40mpg guess i better get out and put some more miles on her! by the way, i was behind another red lb yesterday-south suburbs-tinley park il.
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:55 AM   #1430
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coming from a trailblazer this mileage is amazing. i was hoping to get 40mpg guess i better get out and put some more miles on her! by the way, i was behind another red lb yesterday-south suburbs-tinley park il.
I've seen a few red lb around the suburban area. Saw one in Algonquin a few weeks ago.
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:35 PM   #1431
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OK... methinks I'm getting punked here...

I've had my Yaris for about a month, and it has roughly 1500 miles on it. I'm probably averaging 29 MPG, and this past tank, I only got 24. I use the AC regularly, and I know that hurts the MPG, but by THAT much??
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Old 08-06-2007, 07:54 PM   #1432
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OK... methinks I'm getting punked here...

I've had my Yaris for about a month, and it has roughly 1500 miles on it. I'm probably averaging 29 MPG, and this past tank, I only got 24. I use the AC regularly, and I know that hurts the MPG, but by THAT much??
In the absence of more details, I consider that your mpg numbers are a bit on the low side. Even the A/C should not hurt that much. Hope your next few tanks will be better. Otherwise, some further investigations may be due.
In the mean time, I would suggest that you watch out for irregularities when you drive, such as unusual loss of power, warning lights on the dash, strange noises, bad handling etc and take the car to service if you do encouter any problem. May be it is just a matter of "wrong" calculations.
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Old 08-07-2007, 05:28 AM   #1433
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Bredayaris, I was just ranting in a thread I started elsewhere about the USA not getting the "good stuff". I would kill (well, maybe throw a fit) to get a small diesel here. But, Big Oil and Big Pig Iron are joined at the board room to make sure we always have a big demand for petrol.




I'd dump my LB in a second for one of these....but, we will never see an Aygo here. Sigh.
I wish we could get small diesels here to. They are fairly easy to convert to bio-diesel where you can drive on old frying oil from greasy spoons. The article I read said you can drive all month for an average of $8.

I was reading about the VW Lupo. 3 cylinder diesel that gets 78 MPG!
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:13 AM   #1434
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For those of you that track your mileage (per fill), please post links to share with the rest of us. This thread has grown exponentially and now I cannot find these charts any longer.

Thanks for your assistance.
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:16 AM   #1435
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I was reading about the VW Lupo. 3 cylinder diesel that gets 78 MPG!
But that's a VW, they are expensive, boring and bad quality!
And 78 mpg isn't true also, ok behind a truck maybe with a little luck you get that mpg.

But in the other hand petrol in the States is getting more expensive i realize that but it is nothing if you compare it with Western Europe!

Petrol here costs 1,50€/ L,
that's 5,67 €/ Gallon,
that is 7,80 USD/ Gallon

I don't know what you guys pay for petrol but i think it's 2 times cheaper?!
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:48 PM   #1436
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Well, I filled up my tank twice and here are the results:
1st tank 32.0 mpg
2nd tank 33.6 mpg

A/C was on 90% of the time in the first tank of gas and probably 40% of the time in the second gas. Also, I'm not sure but I would say 50-50% hwy and city mileage.
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Old 08-07-2007, 04:22 PM   #1437
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Just filled up today after having driven 403.7 miles, 70% of which was hwy/suburban driving and 30% city driving. I took 9.881 gallons of gas, equalling just under 41 mpg.

Pretty good, considering that the a/c was on nearly all the time and considering that there were three people in the car nearly all the time. Still looking for that all city driving tank, just to see if I can get the 34 mpg they promise; because I know that I can get the 40 mpg hwy they promise, having gotten as good as 46+ mpg on a recent trip, again, with a/c, three people and a full luggage bay.

Oh, and I try to stay really close to the speed limit (no higher than 65 on hwy trips), using DFCO as much as possible,turning off the car at long stop lights, and try really hard to accelerate slowly and evenly from a dead stop.
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Old 08-07-2007, 04:23 PM   #1438
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Re: the Lupo, I would have loved to have had that option, if it was as inexpensive as the Yaris to purchase.
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Old 08-07-2007, 04:55 PM   #1439
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But that's a VW, they are expensive, boring and bad quality!
And 78 mpg isn't true also, ok behind a truck maybe with a little luck you get that mpg.

But in the other hand petrol in the States is getting more expensive i realize that but it is nothing if you compare it with Western Europe!

Petrol here costs 1,50€/ L,
that's 5,67 €/ Gallon,
that is 7,80 USD/ Gallon

I don't know what you guys pay for petrol but i think it's 2 times cheaper?!
Our gas runs about $2.50-$3.25 a gallon which isn't as bad as some European countries. But isn't a major chunk of the cost over there due to taxes. Doesn't Britain fund their healthcare with gas taxes? I may be wrong. i do agree about the VW; expensive, ugly and poor quality but the mileage they logged was about standard and some testers got upwards of 85 mpg. I would think the Japanese engines would be at least close.

Diamler/Chrysler is going to be bringing the Smart Car to American markets next year. It'll be interesting to see how Americans respond.

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Old 08-07-2007, 10:24 PM   #1440
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Diamler/Chrysler is going to be bringing the Smart Car to American markets next year. It'll be interesting to see how Americans respond.

If it's like they did in Canada, it's too expensive. a base Smart runs you about $2K more than a Yaris. And I like the extra seat.
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